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Bert
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Posted - 20/12/2003 :  10:05:23  Show Profile  Visit Bert's Homepage  Send Bert an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Hi,
I got the following problem with the Fast Voodoo 3.0 driver before and therefor installed the 4.0 Gold driver, but the problem is still there:

The driver does not show the card specs under "system info..." although winxp knows the card and it is listed under "device control".
I installed wicked3d and configured Deus Ex with highres acceleration, but if I try to run it, I get the errormessage "mapmen returned an error when trying to map memory" and it crashes back to windows. After that windows does not show any icons, until I reboot the pc. With Diablo2 I get the same problem.

I found out in the device control that there is no IRQ assigned to the voodoo card, just a memory address range. If thats the problem, how can I assign one to it under winxp?

My system:
WinXP
Athlon XP 3200+
Epox EP8RDA3+
Club 3D ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
Diamond Monster 3D II 12mb

Hope u can help.
Ciao Bert

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Posted - 20/12/2003 :  13:29:41  Show Profile  Visit Nightbird's Homepage  Send Nightbird a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
About the IRQ, this is normal : NO IRQ for a Voodoo2 and a Voodoo 1, just a memory address range

but do you see the card in the device manager not in the section "display adapter" but in the section "sound, video and game controller ?

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olivaw
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Posted - 20/12/2003 :  23:09:02  Show Profile  Visit olivaw's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am also having difficulty getting my Voodoo2 working properly under Windows XP on my system. The error I receive upon starting any Glide application is, "Mapmem returned an error trying to map memory."

I have an ASUS A7N8X Deluxe motherboard (NForce2 chipset) with an Athlon XP 2600+ (Barton core). In addition to the Voodoo2, I also have installed a Prolink Pixelview GeForce4 Ti4200 AGP video card, a D-Link AirPlus DWL-520+ 802.11b+ PCI NIC, and a 3Com 3C410 HomeConnect HomePNA PCI NIC. Windows XP was installed with the ACPI Uniprocessor PC HAL.

The Voodoo2 card is installed as "3dfxzone.it FastVoodoo2 4.0 XP Gold Edition" under "Sound, video and game controllers" as shown in Device Manager, and it is occupying the D8000000 - D8FFFFFF memory range. Device Manager reports, "This device is working properly." Also, the "3dfx V2-1000" tab appears in the "Advanced" window in the Display Properties.

In contrast, the FastVoodoo2 4.0 XP Gold driver is working fine on my wife's computer, an MSI K7 Pro (AMD 750 chipset) with an Athlon 1 GHz (Thunderbird core). In addition to her Voodoo2, she has a Built-by-ATI Radeon 8500 AGP video card, a Creative Audigy2 PCI sound card, and a Compaq NC3121 fast ethernet PCI NIC. On this system Windows XP was installed with the Standard PC HAL.

Her Voodoo2 is occupying ED000000 - EDFFFFFF memory range, and is installed as "3dfxzone.it FastVoodoo2 4.0 XP Gold Edition" under "Sound, video and game controllers".

One final note, both Voodoo2 cards are Diamond Monster 3D II cards. Before placing the Voodoo2 card in my system, I had it installed in my wife's computer in SLI mode with the one that remains in her system, so I know it works.

Any ideas?
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Bert
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Germany
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Posted - 21/12/2003 :  13:45:12  Show Profile  Visit Bert's Homepage  Send Bert an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
I see the card in the section "sound, video and game controller". The memory range is ED000000 - EDFFFFFF.

I got Diablo2 running with the voodoo card by lowering the screen resulotion befor starting. But I only get 20-30 fps, with many magic effects even fewer and therefor it is unplayebal. With Deus Ex the error still remains.
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Posted - 21/12/2003 :  15:43:22  Show Profile  Visit Glide's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok guys,

please all read this topic

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olivaw
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Posted - 22/12/2003 :  03:12:44  Show Profile  Visit olivaw's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No joy on the latest update. I still get the mapmem error. I even tried to lower my desktop's color resolution from 32-bit to 16-bit, but that had no impact.

Last night, I noticed that on my computer every PCI expansion card has a "PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge" covering the same memory range as each card. I can see this in Device Manager by selecting "View/Resources by connection" on the menu. Then I drill down by expanding "Memory" and then "[20000000 - FEBFFFFF] PCI bus". On my wife's system the Voodoo2 driver is listed directly under the "PCI bus", but on my system there is a "[D8000000 - D8FFFFFF] PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge" that has to be expanded before you can see the Voodoo2 driver.

After noticing this, I installed a second copy of Windows XP on another partition of my computer and forced it to install the Standard PC HAL. Unfortunately, the "PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge" was still there even before installing the nForce drivers. I also tried to uninstall the PCI bridge, but that also uninstalled the Voodoo2 driver and the PCI bridge reappeared automatically on a reboot.

I have a very strong suspicion that the PCI bridge is the cause of my troubles. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get around it. The only PCI devices that aren't associated with PCI bridges are the built into the motherboard: They all have entries directly under "PCI bus".

I hope this information helps you to figure out what's wrong.
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kangwy
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Posted - 24/12/2003 :  19:40:30  Show Profile  Visit kangwy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello~! VOODOO2 users...
I think.. I found the problem about "mapmem error"
olivaw`s think is right...~!
this problem is memory range`s problem
I using epox 8rda rev1.1(nforce2) and ti4200

well..
I saw the system property..by AIDA32(APPLICATION)
and I found....
"voodoo2"`s mem range same to "PCI TO PCI bridge"`s mem range

when I changed AGP apercher size(32~512)... voodoo`s mem range is changed..
but... PCI TO PCI bridge`s mem range changed too (-.-;)

how to solve the.. this problem...?

I`m so sorry about my english grade... -.-;
I can`t speak english well lol... sorry.~!
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olivaw
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Posted - 25/12/2003 :  03:31:30  Show Profile  Visit olivaw's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey, another NForce2 chipset user! I wonder if our problem is caused by the chipset itself or because of the PCI-to-PCI bridge. I tried all of the PCI slots on my motherboard, but they all use a bridge. Anyhow, whether it's the chipset or the bridge, I'm afraid that this problem is way beyond a driver package fix. I think it would need at least a binary patch.

In the good news department, I've managed to get Independence War to run in Glide using Zeckensack's Glide wrapper. It only emulates Glide 2.4 and a Voodoo1 card, so I can't run in 800x600 mode, but 640x480 works well. (According to the I-War readme, Glide 2.5 is needed for 800x600. Damn, I'm just revision 0.1 away from having exactly what I need to run my favorite old game!)

So, for the time being, I've put the Voodoo2 card back into my wife's computer for SLI mode and I'm using the Glide wrapper.
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Posted - 28/12/2003 :  16:29:34  Show Profile  Visit Glide's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Tnx a lot for this feedback...we will try to do all possible because we want include your configurations also in Voodoo2 supported system set (that however is larger than in past time )

At this moment i suggest to all you that have problems...to use two operative systems (Windows 98SE as well as Windows 2000/XP) so you can employ Voodoo2 cards with a more compatible environment. This is not the optimal solution but it is better than removing your 3dfx GLide accellerators...


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olivaw
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Posted - 29/12/2003 :  10:17:31  Show Profile  Visit olivaw's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Glide,

No problem regarding the feedback, and I have to say that I admire your commitment to resolving this problem.

Looking at other threads regarding the mapmem error ("Voodoo2 and XP HELP!!!!!" and "Voodoo2 on XP Glide problem"), it appears that almost all the problematic systems use the nForce2 chipset: the Epox EP8RDA3+, the Epox 8RDA, the Abit NF7-S, and the ASUS A7N8X Deluxe have all been mentioned. The one exception I saw was a PC Chips M810, which uses a SiS chipset.

Anyhow, I wish you luck in finding the problem.

Sincerely,
Olivaw
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Posted - 29/12/2003 :  11:56:38  Show Profile  Visit Glide's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Read here: http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=644

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kangwy
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Posted - 02/01/2004 :  18:09:52  Show Profile  Visit kangwy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So~~~~~~Thnaks about map mem error patch..
This patch is so perfact....~!
I can play diablo2 on glide mode and another games..~!

I`m so happy !~!~! by your team(?)
:-)

and "olivaw" how about you?
can you play game on voodoo2? like me?
hehe.~!~!

anyway thanks again ~! ~!
byebye

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olivaw
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Posted - 04/01/2004 :  18:51:58  Show Profile  Visit olivaw's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow! Yes! It works!

Diablo 2 plays perfectly. However, Independence War had all sorts of texture errors. So I took a look at the version numbers for the glide dll's in FastVoodoo2 4.0 XP GE and I noticed that the glide2x.dll was originally from the GlideXP package and the glide3x.dll was from Quantum 3D for their Obsidian2 card.

Since GlideXP's glide2x.dll is essentially a wrapper sending glide2 calls to the glide3x.dll, I figured the problem was in the translation, so I went looking for the Quantum 3D drivers at driverguide.com and found them, Ob2_6cf_nt.exe. I simply replaced the GlideXP glide2x.dll with the one from the Quantum 3D package (version 2.54.3.457, dated July 30, 1999) and all is well! (Note, I did not install the Quantum 3D Obsidian2 drivers. I just replaced that one dll by extracting it from the archive using PowerArchiver 2000 and copying it to my system32 directory.)

Thanks so much for fixing this problem for all us nForce2 users.
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Posted - 05/01/2004 :  00:30:44  Show Profile  Visit Glide's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi olivaw and all Voodoo2 owners,

I think that our work about FastVoodoo2 4.0 XP GE driver was oriented to enlarge supported configurations set and this target has been obtained. So more games run on more computers with a nice video output.

But, compatibility issue in some cases remains: so we don't forget this and will do all that we can do to get fixes. Already we put on line these patches http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=644 which give good results with other systems too!

Now in this time i ask you (and all interested people) an active feedback that could be very useful to help other guys and to make a good 3dfx (Voodoo2) Community.

For example you could attach at this topic your glide2x and glide3x dlls that you are using now.

Thanks in advance.


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olivaw
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Posted - 05/01/2004 :  08:41:00  Show Profile  Visit olivaw's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I tried to upload the glide2x.dll I found, but when I click on the file upload button I get a window that says that I must be logged in. I tried setting my IE6 privacy settings to accept all cookies, but that didn't help. In fact, the only way I'm able to post messages at all is by providing my username and password in the fields above the message box. This is strange because no other message board gives me this problem.

Anyhow, if you have a driverguide.com membership ID you can follow this link to get the file:

http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=121653

If you don't have an ID, you can register for free.

Once you have the driver package, extract its contents using your favorite Zip program.

According to the "Uploader Notes", the driver package won't work for Windows 95/98/ME/2000 or XP, only NT. But I find it interesting that the glide DLLs do work under XP once FastVoodoo2 4.0 XP GE is installed.
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olivaw
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Posted - 05/01/2004 :  08:47:49  Show Profile  Visit olivaw's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here's another link where you can download that driver package:

http://www.quantum3d.com/support/consumer/Ob2_6cf_nt.exe

I'm sorry I couldn't just post that glide2x.dll to this forum.
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