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amp_man
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Posted - 08/09/2003 :  21:29:24  Show Profile  Visit amp_man's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i heard somewhere that Amigamerlin 3.0 (btw thanks Amigamerlin and the whole team) was supposed to have directx 9 support, so I've been hanging onto midnight club 2, which I bought before i found out it required dx9 and I was going to return it. Does AM 3.0 have full directx 9 support, or is it only compliance like the Voodoolizer 1.05.00 drivers? And if anyone can tell me exactly how to make this game work, it would be awesome.

when the sun goes down, the music turns up...

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lecram25
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Posted - 08/09/2003 :  23:06:37  Show Profile  Visit lecram25's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
i heard somewhere that Amigamerlin 3.0 (btw thanks Amigamerlin and the whole team) was supposed to have directx 9 support, so I've been hanging onto midnight club 2, which I bought before i found out it required dx9 and I was going to return it. Does AM 3.0 have full directx 9 support, or is it only compliance like the Voodoolizer 1.05.00 drivers? And if anyone can tell me exactly how to make this game work, it would be awesome.

when the sun goes down, the music turns up...


I'm gonna quote you just in case you decide to edit your crap. You're really consistent when it comes to making yourself look bad. Full dx9 support and full dx9 compliance is the same thing. Yes, the Amigas are dx9 compatible, but they're not compiant. The R3xx and the NV3x chips are fully supported by dx9, i.e. PS/VS 2.0 . The Voodoo 5 is bearly a dx6 card. It's a dx5 card to be exact. You might wanna try using 3danalyze,
http://www.tommti-systems.de/start.html
to try getting this game to work. It most probably requires HW TnL. And no, Geometry Assist will not work
And I don't think they'll let you return it, cd copying and all...

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amp_man
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Posted - 09/09/2003 :  01:50:03  Show Profile  Visit amp_man's Homepage  Reply with Quote
lecram, you just dont stop, do you? when i said compliance, i meant that directx9 will recognize the card, but games using directx9 will not run or will run only when using a directx 8.7 or 7 emulator, for lack of a better term, like 3d-analyze. now, getting back to the subject, i reinstalled directx 9 and midnight club 2 will now start up and allow me into the menu, but whenever i try to run a race or change the video settigs, it will crash. does anyone know how to remedy this?

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Nightbird
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Posted - 09/09/2003 :  03:34:13  Show Profile  Visit Nightbird's Homepage  Send Nightbird a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
that would be perhaps easier for people if you write what this game needs or/and if you have a link

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amp_man
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  04:06:03  Show Profile  Visit amp_man's Homepage  Reply with Quote
terribly sorry i thought the title pretty much gave it away. from the game readme file:
quote:
Minimum Hardware Requirements

800 MHz Intel Pentium III or 800 MHz AMD Athlon
or 1.2GHz Intel Celeron or 1.2 GHz AMD Duron processor
128 MB of RAM
4 speed CD / DVD drive
1400 MB of free hard disk space
32 MB video card with DirectX 9.0 compatible drivers
("GeForce2"/"Radeon 8500" or better)
Sound Card
Keyboard
Mouse

This game also requires 32bpp color, so i have turned on the "Force 32bpp Rendering" option in the 3dfx tools. My problem is that when the game goes to render cars (im not sure about other 3d objects), it just plain closes (to the desktop). i have tried some of the options in 3d analyze, but i havent had any luck so far.

btw, the place i bought it from will allow you to return games for store credit for 14 days after the date of purchase. and lecram, the jokes on you, im using AM 3.0 so Geo assist aint available (just MMX and 3DNOW)

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lecram25
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  20:00:38  Show Profile  Visit lecram25's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You still don't get it do you? That option is USELESS!!! It won't help you any bit in that game. Like I said before, use 3da.

And, you ever hear of sarcasm?

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amp_man
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  20:41:45  Show Profile  Visit amp_man's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amp_man

i have tried some of the options in 3d analyze, but i havent had any luck so far.


i guess i stated that incorrectly: i have tried nearly every option in "3da" as you call it, and have tried many combonations of options, without any luck so far.

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Black_Out
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Posted - 13/09/2003 :  01:06:36  Show Profile  Visit Black_Out's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lecram25

You still don't get it do you? That option is USELESS!!! It won't help you any bit in that game. Like I said before, use 3da.

And, you ever hear of sarcasm?




Naw dude -- could you explain it to me.....talk slowly so I can understand.
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lecram25
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Posted - 13/09/2003 :  01:33:39  Show Profile  Visit lecram25's Homepage  Reply with Quote
People, I think I've worked out the clone issue...
cpdubal=BlacK_Out=amp_man

He uses BlacK_Out more often cause he feels it's the most credible looking/sounding name...

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Black_Out
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Posted - 13/09/2003 :  01:55:53  Show Profile  Visit Black_Out's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"people. . . ." nice statment there buddyyeee....It's called a sentence structure, try it sometime.

You are like a clown, you always makes me laugh and everything you do is full of folly

Yer slaying me....I can't stop laughing... thanks Crammit #25, Ineeded that

"People. . . " nice statement. It's called a "sentence structure" try it some time

The only ID that belongs to me is the on you see on your screen...Ya crosseyed ...err sumptin'.... jeezeez Jeb!

If you play a Microsoft CD backward you can hear satanic messages..... but that's nothing, if you play it forward it will install Windows.
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lecram25
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Posted - 13/09/2003 :  02:00:15  Show Profile  Visit lecram25's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
"people. . . ." nice statment there buddyyeee....It's called a sentence structure, try it sometime.

You are like a clown, you always makes me laugh and everything you do is full of folly

Yer slaying me....I can't stop laughing... thanks Crammit #25, Ineeded that

"People. . . " nice statement. It's called a "sentence structure" try it some time

The only ID that belongs to me is the on you see on your screen...Ya crosseyed ...err sumptin'.... jeezeez Jeb!

If you play a Microsoft CD backward you can hear satanic messages..... but that's nothing, if you play it forward it will install Windows.


This guy speaks for himself. cpdubal/BlacK_Out, is there a need to repeat yourself? And don't "buddyyeee" me, I'm not your friend...
EDIT: I've alread made my point on the whole cpdubal/BlacK_Out thing. ALL OF HIS POSTS TURNED INTO YOURS!!! i.e. his post counts and everything. Anyone wanna explain how this is possible?

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Edited by - lecram25 on 13/09/2003 02:04:37
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Black_Out
Initiate

USA


76 Posts

Posted - 13/09/2003 :  02:07:54  Show Profile  Visit Black_Out's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Aww......mann...I thought we were GOOD buddies....oh -- shucky darn.....what AM I to doo? Yipes didn't wanna damage that relationship.....oh....my....beating heart.......OHHHH BILLLLLY

I speak for my self?? REALLY?? WOW! SWEET --- FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOMMMM!

I can speak for myself -- YES!! WHOO HOO!! WHOO HOO!! NO LIMITS people!

Non-the-less I don't care if you don't belive me but the amp_man ID is not mine.
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Black_Out
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USA


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Posted - 13/09/2003 :  02:08:57  Show Profile  Visit Black_Out's Homepage  Reply with Quote
oh.....I said....."people"

Now I am as COOL as you.
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amp_man
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545 Posts

Posted - 17/09/2003 :  03:44:39  Show Profile  Visit amp_man's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lecram25

People, I think I've worked out the clone issue...
cpdubal=BlacK_Out=amp_man

He uses BlacK_Out more often cause he feels it's the most credible looking/sounding name...


okay, I am not Black_out and i dont know what gives you that impression. do you think everyone who disagrees with you (or blantently tells you that you're wrong) is the same person? Anyways, i can see why cpdubal changed his name - he was tired of you following him around and harrasing him at every opportunity! I'm looking for help with a game, not a nim-witted thirteen-year-old like lecram to make dumb suggestions without even reading my post, where it states that I've already tried it. If you think you can help me to get midnight club 2 running, then please, post. If you're just looking to fight, I will put my email address in my info and you can send it there. You two (and myself with these responses) are wasting valuable forum space and moderator's time. Please, take it elsewhere or just drop it


EDIT: lecram, before you go accusing me of making some major change by editing my post, it's just because i noticed a few spelling and grammer errors, something you appear to know very little about, IMOHO


when the sun goes down, the music turns up...

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Edited by - amp_man on 17/09/2003 03:58:26
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Black_Out
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USA


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Posted - 18/09/2003 :  02:56:20  Show Profile  Visit Black_Out's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There was some discussion of this on the x3dfx forums:
http://pub43.ezboard.com/fx3dfxfrm2.showMessage?topicID=3057.topic

Basically saying that it is compatible with DirectX 9 but you can't get any 3D acceleration from it. I have searched the 'net for answers but found jack other than suggestions to use the force 32 Bit rendering, but I don't know what good that will really do.

Looks like we need someone from the AmigaMerlin team to fill us in on the whole DirectX9 thing, as I would like to know as well.
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Last thing I will say about the situation(s) getting outta hand, yeah I changed my ID for the very reasons amp_man said, to the T. And a certain someone (lecram) drove me a little nutty with getting on my back and all I wanted was a peacfull conversation. So I figured I'd see how he liked it, gave it back, unfortunatley that got me banned for a bit. Sorry to anyone who's read this crud so far. So, that is where I will leave that topic at. I will not fill up the forum anymore with garbage relating to this.
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amp_man
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Posted - 18/09/2003 :  21:37:55  Show Profile  Visit amp_man's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Black_Out for the effort (and an actually useful post, it's the first one for this topic! even if it is disappointing). I'm about ready to give up on this whole 3dfx ****

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