Sugestions for VooDoo based projects

Started by hanksemenec, 16 August 2003, 04:41:19

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lecram25

In the 3dfx tools; in the info section. It'll tell you if you've got a VSA 100 or 101.

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Rolo01

That does not always work.
I have a V4 with DDR-Ram and a VSA-101, but the 3dfx tools just say VSA-100.
AIDA32 identifies the chip as VSA-200...
 

NitroX infinity

God, I'd give an arm for a V4 daytona. Heck, i'd give an arm just to touch it! [:P]
How much does it outperform a regular V4?
 

Rolo01

Hmm, up to this day it doesnt outperform a normal V4. 3dfx reduced the clock to 143 Mhz, but the ram is 6 ns, so with a little luck I could reach 183 Mhz.
The chip itself has no cooler, but it doesnt become hot at 143 Mhz anyway.
I will soon add an active cooler and see what that baby can really do...
But somewhere I read that the bus between memory and VSA-101 is only 64bit, so dont expect too much...
 

Hiero

"one thing I am curious about:
Would it be possible to replace the VSA-100 chip with a VSA-101 chip and than replace the memory with DDR-SDRAM?"

Yeah - how about replacing the chip of a Voodoo2 1000 through a VSA-200 Rampage and then adding 2GB BGA DDR-Ram with 2NS. Than we could probably clock the Voodoo1 at 1000MHz at least. And don't forget Hardware T&L and Pixel Shader. For people who want to keep there Voodoo Graphics 4MB the mod can be done as well: but only with 1GB DDR.
Sorry guys but what are you thinking ? Have you ever seen a VSA-101 ? You CAN'T get them unless u pay a fortune for them. AND:
DDR memory has a completely different design. SO IT SIMPLY DOESN'T FIT. If you want to change that, you can build a new card, that's probably easier. Anyway, eben if you can manage to change the SD memory of a Voodoo5 it would be damn expensive.
So don't even ask for a mod for the Voodoo2. Don't waste your time and spam, just go to Ebay and buy a Voodoo5 for 20$. That's much faster than any modded Voodoo2.
Sorry but stop spamming, just accept that it is much too expensive to use anything else than just normal SD memory.

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bloodworm

Yes, I have found out (from Hank's past posts at x3dfx) that the VSA 101 has a completely different pinout than the VSA100 and won't fit in a V5 5500 at all.  The only mod to the V5's that is possible right now is the memory upgrade, but we have to find a source of ram first....  going with the 5ns speed ram will enable us to clock the card at 200Mhz no problemo as the VSA100 is capable of 200Mhz and it is mostly (but not always) the RAM speed that limits the cards to 166Mhz.....  Now the RAM part number that I quoted is pin for pin compatable with what is already installed in the cards and the addition of 8 jumper wires and some resistor changes should enable us to use the extra RAM, since the BIOS is already good for the extra address space.  the resistor changes is what will tell the VSA100 that there is extra ram available to it.....  Hynix is NOT the only company that makes ram like this, but it is the only one that I had speced out so far......

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Obi-Wan Kenobi

#141
It sounds very interesting but why not Upgrade the Voodoo5 5500 AGP/PCI with DDR Memory?  I mean isn't that a better option 200Mhz [ theoretically DDR400Mhz !!] then even a Rampy won't be neccesary!!

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NitroX infinity

If you would heve read the rest of the topic you would have known that DDR-SDRAM has a different pinout than normal SDRAM memory :)

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Obi-Wan Kenobi

QuoteOriginally posted by Phalanx

If you would heve read the rest of the topic you would have known that DDR-SDRAM has a different pinout than normal SDRAM memory :)

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oh wel i've must of skipped that... but that's a shame..it would of been nice though :P

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NitroX infinity

I hope Hank comes with an update soon.
I'm especially looking forward to the "more memory" issue since it wil increase performance, especially at higher resolutions.

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amp_man

so, you mean I couldn't pull the ram off my v5 and put it on my v2, then take the ram off my 512mb DDR chip and use that on the v5? that sucks

just kidding. where's hank to put this stupid BS back on track?

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Cyberpunk 2027

I'll second that..

Hank PLEASE come back and post the answer to the riddle of how do we for real upgrade these V5 5500's to 128mb or even better V5 6000 to 256mb ((DROOL))

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amp_man

I don't believe anyone who owned a 6k would be foolish enough to try and mod it, except for hank himself, but I believe he has quite a few and knows what he's doing.

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ElvIsAlive007

#148
oh hank just sent me the instructions on how to superglue the extra 128mb ram onto the v6k with no hassles he recons , i find this amazing also theres a hardware based T&L (Trandform&Lighting chip to to plug in from SGI) as well as a alien based super chip from area 51 with pixel shadding 4 and 3d hologram laser based 3dvideo wall projection system

but really i just sit here quitely with my agp to pci convotor card hopeing kool smokey will let the v6k witk in twin on 1 machine , think 2 x v6ks on one machine

really this is the go, then we can get 16x fsaa 3dfx style which will kill them

Regards

ELviSALive

 

lecram25

Quoteoh hank just sent me the instructions on how to superglue the extra 128mb ram onto the v6k with no hassles he recons , i find this amazing also theres a hardware based T&L (Trandform&Lighting chip to to plug in from SGI) as well as a alien based super chip from area 51 with pixel shadding 4 and 3d hologram laser based 3dvideo wall projection system



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