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Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: r21vo on 08 June 2004, 19:52:14
are there any real 3dfx driver sources available? at least something, what could give the first point from start with?

Mesa and other opengl libraries are quite fast and compatible, but the bad thing is that most of games nowdays are in direct3d, and d3d compability is very poor for 3dfx cards :(
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: Nightbird on 08 June 2004, 20:57:49
The Source has been realized since 1 year now.
Look for on the Web and you will find it.

BUT don't link here the File, thanks.
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: PanoramixDruida on 08 June 2004, 23:24:54
You can download it from "Removed". It's almost 40Mb. ;)
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: Nightbird on 09 June 2004, 05:55:14
@PanoramixDruida
This is a pity that you didn't still understand something important :
The Source belongs to NVidia, this is its intellectual property and because this is the Law, nobody can in theory put online and use it.

Remember also (you agreed these Rules):
- "Remember that all information that is disclosed in these areas becomes public information and you should exercise caution when deciding to share any of your personal information."
- "You also agree that you will not post any copyrighted material that is not owned by yourself or the owners of these forums."

The last great 3dfx sites on the Web (and they are very rare now) are not crazy : they don't put online the File but everybody knows where you can find it...

And because This site is the only Site on the Web working on the 3dfx drivers, it wants NO problem...

Is it clear ?

[}:)]
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: amp_man on 09 June 2004, 06:55:18
erm, so why didn't you edit his post and remove the link? [?]
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: dborca on 09 June 2004, 10:38:56
QuoteOriginally posted by r21vo

are there any real 3dfx driver sources available? at least something, what could give the first point from start with?

Mesa and other opengl libraries are quite fast and compatible, but the bad thing is that most of games nowdays are in direct3d, and d3d compability is very poor for 3dfx cards :(
Oyes! Which reminds me of this:
http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: PanoramixDruida on 09 June 2004, 13:41:22
Sorry guys! [V]. I didn't know it. I'll never do things like that anymore [:(]
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: Amigamerlin on 09 June 2004, 17:11:48
QuoteOriginally posted by PanoramixDruida

You can download it from "Removed". It's almost 40Mb. ;)

Please Panoramixdruida, use a pvt message for the link.;)
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: PanoramixDruida on 09 June 2004, 18:27:19
QuotePlease Panoramixdruida, use a pvt message for the link.

Thanks Amiga, but I prefer not to do that. Seriouslly, I didn't realize I couldn't do that. Sorry again guys. It'll never happen again. ;)
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: r21vo on 09 June 2004, 23:29:51
thx, I found & downloaded the sources.

Archive actualy include very much sources for building new releases of drivers, is anybody succesfully done it already?

Also I found there BIOS sources, but it seems that they are only for napalm, unfortunately I've only VooDoo3 (avenger) so i can't test them :(

whole structure of archive is a bit hard to understand, but i'm sure it's not impossible :D
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: dborca on 10 June 2004, 15:00:11
QuoteOriginally posted by r21vo

Archive actualy include very much sources for building new releases of drivers, is anybody succesfully done it already?
Yeah, I did it some time ago, although only a shallow approach. I had to puke a week after, from d3d intoxication. There's still a patch on my situ.

However, building the drivers for Napalm is useless, since there is a better core for VSA-100 out there. The guy who leaked the archive provides better binaries than the sources he released. That's a pity, because people has to work hard to reach his binaries' performance first, then overcome them. An unnecessary handicap, IMHO!
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: r21vo on 10 June 2004, 18:23:39
QuoteOriginally posted by dborca
However, building the drivers for Napalm is useless, since there is a better core for VSA-100 out there. The guy who leaked the archive provides better binaries than the sources he released. That's a pity, because people has to work hard to reach his binaries' performance first, then overcome them. An unnecessary handicap, IMHO!
so It means that NuAngel's drivers are the fastest drivers for Napalm out there for now? Has anyone asked him about releasing his source to public?
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: lecram25 on 10 June 2004, 20:05:26
Go ask Reid for his source ;)
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: patience on 11 June 2004, 02:14:17
This is not NuAngel'core.
Some NuAngel drivers are using simply the last beta core done by Reid Campbell and a Team.

I doubt also that R.C gives a source in public.
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: dborca on 11 June 2004, 08:01:52
QuoteOriginally posted by patience

This is not NuAngel'core.
Some NuAngel drivers are using simply the last beta core done by Reid Campbell and a Team.

I doubt also that R.C gives a source in public.
It's still a pity, nevertheless.
However, newer amigamerlin releases for win9x -- if any -- might be based on this core. And I can assure you we won't use other people's DLLs.
Cheers to whoever manages to read between the lines. :D
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: Amigamerlin on 11 June 2004, 08:47:12
QuoteOriginally posted by dborca

QuoteOriginally posted by patience

This is not NuAngel'core.
Some NuAngel drivers are using simply the last beta core done by Reid Campbell and a Team.

I doubt also that R.C gives a source in public.
It's still a pity, nevertheless.
However, newer amigamerlin releases for win9x -- if any -- might be based on this core. And I can assure you we won't use other people's DLLs.
Cheers to whoever manages to read between the lines. :D


:D :D :D Green Evil strike again !!
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: KillerOPS on 13 June 2004, 14:49:10
Can someone point me to the voodoo3 driver sources? Thank you! Please use PM
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: Nightbird on 13 June 2004, 16:21:28
www.google.com
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: r21vo on 14 June 2004, 01:30:36
actualy I don't know do these sources work for v3 because everywhere is only info about v4,v5 in sources..
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: lecram25 on 14 June 2004, 04:17:52
The Avenger (doodoo 3) stuff should be in the "H3" folder.
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: r21vo on 14 June 2004, 14:57:53
QuoteOriginally posted by lecram25

The Avenger (doodoo 3) stuff should be in the "H3" folder.
there were no H3 foder in downloaded archive (39,3 MB (41 238 517 bytes)), there were only H5 folder, so it means that those sources are only for VooDoo5 (and v4 i guess)?
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: lecram25 on 14 June 2004, 15:19:04
Lemme go check.


EDIT:

WOW, seems that I overlooked that one; it's been a while since I've been in the source. The onyl doodoo3 stuff is located at the sourceforge. Ask dborca.
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: SuperFurryFurryThing on 15 June 2004, 00:55:29
Assuming that they are the same sources that I got They can be made to work on a V3.

SFFT
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: lecram25 on 15 June 2004, 20:45:09
No different sources. (http://my.fit.edu/~mmichael/Smileys/dork.gif)
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: r21vo on 16 June 2004, 21:15:12
I couldn't find any V3 sources on sourceforge..
anyway's just got a VooDoo 4500 AGP for testing purposes :)
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: dborca on 17 June 2004, 11:21:40
You could, however, try harder...

Checkout glide3x / glide-devel-branch from the CVS.
You'll end up with a complete sourcetree (all 3dfx HW supported).
The "h3" directory is for Banshee/Voodoo3, but it's somehow phased out, as "h5" is compatible with Banshee, Avenger, Velocity, Napalm.

Take it as a homework to try and spot what do "sst1" and "cvg" stand for.
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: r21vo on 17 June 2004, 12:43:38
it seems that sst1 = VooDoo1 & cvg = VooDoo2.
i found those sources on sf, but they seem very poor...
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: lecram25 on 17 June 2004, 14:29:02
QuoteOriginally posted by r21vo

it seems that sst1 = VooDoo1 & cvg = VooDoo2.
i found those sources on sf, but they seem very poor...

That's why you spend time and work on them. Not everything gets handed to you on a silver platter you know. (http://my.fit.edu/~mmichael/Smileys/b3deyeroll.gif)
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: dborca on 17 June 2004, 15:15:06
QuoteOriginally posted by r21vo

it seems that sst1 = VooDoo1 & cvg = VooDoo2.
i found those sources on sf, but they seem very poor...
Yeah, you being so bright, I guess you only had to glance through them and emanate highly specialized opinions, right? If you feel they seem so "poor", grab the keyboard and catch up with some code. I ported the sst1 branch from glide2x, you know, and it works pretty good.

PS: and, btw, you're wrong. sst1 is used for Rush, too.
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: r21vo on 18 June 2004, 00:45:30
QuoteOriginally posted by dborca
Yeah, you being so bright, I guess you only had to glance through them and emanate highly specialized opinions, right? If you feel they seem so "poor", grab the keyboard and catch up with some code. I ported the sst1 branch from glide2x, you know, and it works pretty good.

PS: and, btw, you're wrong. sst1 is used for Rush, too.
I didn't ment "poor" as "this code sucks" but as "this code seems uncompleted, like I see too less files to succesfuly compile something, compared to the other sources I got from net, correct me If i'm wrong". I respect your job, and can only say "doh, if i had knowledge like that".

All what I could find out on that sf site was that there is some development going on fixing/merging glide libs under *nix. There were no signs of sources for voodoo stuff for windows.


PS: I'm at beginner level compared to you..
Title: 3dfx driver sources
Post by: dborca on 19 June 2004, 10:14:14
QuoteOriginally posted by r21vo

All what I could find out on that sf site was that there is some development going on fixing/merging glide libs under *nix. There were no signs of sources for voodoo stuff for windows.
Okay. Do not forget to checkout the "glide-devel-branch". The default branch is what 3dfx originally comitted. Anyway, The sources are pretty complete, you just need to write your own makefiles for windows. The current status is like that: