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Title: y bother?
Post by: poooooo on 03 May 2005, 00:35:52
honnestly y bother with old hardware thats long dead n never works with any of the latest games? i 4t new games were out so that people could enjoty the latest gfx n gameplay. it aint gonna get u anywhere. av noticed that the 3dfx site has died. doesnt this say something? hell ad rather have a my bitch ass gf4 than a voodoo5 6000. u can get a decent gfx card 4 bugger all these days. tbh i think you lot should get out more. i doubt that any of you have gfs/bfs.

maybe u could start a stamp collection. maybe it mite be worth summet in a few years.

i'll prolly get banned etc. oh well am really bothered

sorry 2 b blunt but am only telling the truth. sooner you realise that ur the laughing stock of the gfx card comminity the better.
Title: y bother?
Post by: Nightbird on 03 May 2005, 02:02:12
Stop your bla-bla.
If you don't like 3dfx and the old hardware, why are you here ?
Buy a GF or all what you like and play the last games ! Is it a problem for you ?

Do you know how we name people like you ? trolls... [}:)]
You're bothering.
Title: y bother?
Post by: gdonovan on 03 May 2005, 04:47:07
It's simple, I'm a lunatic.
Title: y bother?
Post by: kekit on 03 May 2005, 06:35:11
seriously, why did u make an account here if ur gonna bad mouth the 3dfx community?
Title: y bother?
Post by: Amigamerlin on 03 May 2005, 11:19:45
QuoteOriginally posted by poooooo

honnestly y bother with old hardware thats long dead n never works with any of the latest games? i 4t new games were out so that people could enjoty the latest gfx n gameplay. it aint gonna get u anywhere. av noticed that the 3dfx site has died. doesnt this say something? hell ad rather have a my bitch ass gf4 than a voodoo5 6000. u can get a decent gfx card 4 bugger all these days. tbh i think you lot should get out more. i doubt that any of you have gfs/bfs.

maybe u could start a stamp collection. maybe it mite be worth summet in a few years.

i'll prolly get banned etc. oh well am really bothered

sorry 2 b blunt but am only telling the truth. sooner you realise that ur the laughing stock of the gfx card comminity the better.

Hey man, I don't know if you really know where you are posting and reading what you are wrinting is obviously that you don't have the passion for 3dfx and that you don't know that this place is where is 3dfx's soul.

Anyway, as I said in the past, in this place all thinks voodoo and if you aren't a voodoo user this is not the right place for you.

This time I want to add that, if you have nothing to do,  please go to do it in another place.

Hoping I was clear, I wouldn't like to return to this argument.[}:)]

Bye
Title: y bother?
Post by: Jules on 03 May 2005, 14:18:48
Maybe he doesn't know that if there was no 3dfx there would never been a GF4 [:p] ( probably )
Title: y bother?
Post by: hanksemenec on 03 May 2005, 14:48:06
:D Last week I had lunch with the rest of the systems engineering from 3DFX, the Evil TRIO of engineers. Nice feeling, we loved to bring stuff to you, which was ahead of it's time and little bit evil. There would have been more, but the bean counters decided to bail.

Anyway, board like this is a proof that people appreciated what we have done [:p]. hehe

Hank[}:)]
Title: y bother?
Post by: Voodoo5 on 03 May 2005, 15:11:39
@poooooo,

Quotehonnestly y bother with old hardware thats long dead n never works with any of the latest games?

Your missing the point, were not still here because 3dfx cards can properly run the newest games ;)

Quotehell ad rather have a my bitch ass gf4 than a voodoo5 6000.

Thats a ridiculous statement as a Voodoo 6000 is a very unique and rare video card that can go for 1000 + dollars when sold :D, a geforce 4 can be acquired for maybe what $50 [:0]

Quotemaybe u could start a stamp collection. maybe it mite be worth summet in a few years.

Nah, I like collecting video cards thank you very much.

Quotesorry 2 b blunt but am only telling the truth. sooner you realise that ur the laughing stock of the gfx card comminity the better.

I love it [8D]



Go too an Nvidia site an be the fan boy you seem to be [}:)], they may tolerate it, we wont :D

Title: y bother?
Post by: Voodoo5 on 03 May 2005, 15:47:26
@hanksemenec,

QuoteAnyway, board like this is a proof that people appreciated what we have done . hehe


Its a shame that it all had to come to such an abrupt ending [:(]

3dfx was the best ;)
Title: y bother?
Post by: Nightbird on 03 May 2005, 15:50:53
I quote you Hanksemenec ;)
QuoteAnyway, board like this is a proof that people appreciated what we have done [:p] hehe
Not only "appreciated" but also "appreciate" :)
Title: y bother?
Post by: Amigamerlin on 03 May 2005, 16:00:11
QuoteOriginally posted by Nightbird

I quote you Hanksemenec ;)
QuoteAnyway, board like this is a proof that people appreciated what we have done [:p] hehe
Not only "appreciated" but also "appreciate" :)

Completely agree !! :)
Title: y bother?
Post by: Amigamerlin on 03 May 2005, 16:04:01
@hanksemenec

OT.
Ciao Hank !!  Nice to meet you here !! :D :D :D and nice to meet you again !! :D :D :D ;);)
Title: y bother?
Post by: Obi-Wan Kenobi on 03 May 2005, 20:08:16
the name Poooo says it allread  a real pooish name so I guest his posts are also pooish ;)
what a Silly Mortal.

I rather use Force Lightning on this villan really or send him to another demension or so.

3dfx must stay alive here !!! Don't let go my friends.

Title: y bother?
Post by: Voodoo5 on 03 May 2005, 20:15:21
@Obi-Wan Kenobi,

Quote3dfx must stay alive here !!! Don't let go my friends.

[8D];)
Title: y bother?
Post by: Obi-Wan Kenobi on 03 May 2005, 20:17:13
3dfx 4-Ever!!!

that's the spirit!!
Title: y bother?
Post by: Caravel on 03 May 2005, 21:36:38
Well I'm not sure mr 'pooo' really insulted any of you, though you have responded by insulting him. Of course, registering in order to post a collection of negative comments on the subject matter of the forum itself, seems to be rather a wasted registration, but he wasn't exactly trolling your board IMHO.  The first response to his post was an insult to him in fact, after which, the rest of you seeing this as a licence, followed suit.  A board should have solid rules not a biased 'free for all' whenever someone posts something that the majority don't agree with.

Indeed the cards are old, and indeed an individual would most likely be better off with a Geforce4 than a Voodoo5 6000 if playing newer games without any kind of fuss on the agenda, but for the most part these old cards are pretty ok, and supported well in Linux wheras ATi are not supported very well at all.  Nvidia seem to have forgotten about backwards compaitibilty and older games running under XP with their newer line of cards are getting troublesome to say the least, so another reason to hang onto a Voodoo or two.
Title: y bother?
Post by: gdonovan on 03 May 2005, 21:52:31
QuoteOriginally posted by Caravel

Well I'm not sure mr 'pooo' really insulted any of you, though you have responded by insulting him.

If you review my post, I answered the question with no insults.

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Indeed the cards are old, and indeed an individual would most likely be better off with a Geforce4 than a Voodoo5 6000 if playing newer games without any kind of fuss on the agenda.

Heh, it's nothing to do with playing newer games.

As they say, you would had to have been there to understand where one comes from.
Title: y bother?
Post by: Voodoo5 on 03 May 2005, 22:00:00
@Caravel,

Sorry, but IMO he was being very rude and disrespectful to all board members and has brought all this on himself by the nature of his topic.

How can you defend his last sentence and think everyone else started the rudeness ;)

Title: y bother?
Post by: Nightbird on 03 May 2005, 22:20:44
@ Caravel
QuoteA board should have solid rules not a biased 'free for all' whenever someone posts something that the majority don't agree with.
And this is because of these "solid and not biased rules" that you can write freely.
Title: y bother?
Post by: Caravel on 03 May 2005, 22:59:51
QuoteOriginally posted by gdonovan

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Indeed the cards are old, and indeed an individual would most likely be better off with a Geforce4 than a Voodoo5 6000 if playing newer games without any kind of fuss on the agenda.

Heh, it's nothing to do with playing newer games.

As they say, you would had to have been there to understand where one comes from.


If you're going to quote me then try to quote my entire paragrapgh as that is only partial and thus quite misleading...

And I think you'll find I was 'there'... ;)
Title: y bother?
Post by: gdonovan on 04 May 2005, 00:04:11
Quote

If you're going to quote me then try to quote my entire paragrapgh as that is only partial and thus quite misleading...

And I think you'll find I was 'there'... ;)

I wasn't talking about you.



Title: y bother?
Post by: Caravel on 04 May 2005, 00:17:18
QuoteOriginally posted by gdonovan

Quote

If you're going to quote me then try to quote my entire paragrapgh as that is only partial and thus quite misleading...

And I think you'll find I was 'there'... ;)

I wasn't talking about you.

You quoted me twice, then followed up with two paragraphs referring to no one in particular, so you'll forgive the presumption on my part.
Title: y bother?
Post by: poooooo on 04 May 2005, 00:27:28
QuoteOriginally posted by Jules

Maybe he doesn't know that if there was no 3dfx there would never been a GF4 [:p] ( probably )

ur wrong actually. i have previously owned a voodoo graphics, voodoo 2 and voodoo5 5500 pci.

i used to be part of a forum long ago that supported 3dfx. my interest ended in 3dfx when the countless complaints came flowing in that no games would work or programs wouldnt function in windows due to display problems. indeed no one has produced a "new" fully working driver that isnt based on old drivers that corrects this. if they had i prolly wouldnt be here now.

suppose the point am tryin to get accross is y bother with hardware thats slowly rotting away. i 4t people would embrace the idea of new technology. you just seem 2 brand people "nvidiots" or "trolls" for people that have decided to move on. its a horrible way for 3dfx to die. it has lost its dignity by people flooding their old drivers with new, so called "enhanced" features and realeasing them as their own. fine it was great for quake 3 etc. hell they were great days.

theres no point banning me beacsue i wont be back. i am just enjoying my right to freedom of speech.

cya.
Title: y bother?
Post by: r21vo on 04 May 2005, 00:37:49
one just doesn't understand that 3dfx cards now has a different meaning to their owners, noone is saying they are top performance cards nowdays, even some cheap low-end card is more powerful than these old voodoos, but one thing is clear - 3dfx revolutionized world of realtime 3d graphics. It's like first kiss - those who have felt it never forget, those who don't - doesn't understand, and probably won't.
Title: y bother?
Post by: Voodoo5 on 04 May 2005, 01:02:12
@r21vo,

 
Quotebut one thing is clear - 3dfx revolutionized world of realtime 3d graphics. It's like first kiss - those who have felt it never forget, those who don't - doesn't understand, and probably won't.

Exactly, well said ;)
Title: y bother?
Post by: gdonovan on 04 May 2005, 03:22:47
Quote

suppose the point am tryin to get accross is y bother with hardware thats slowly rotting away.


It has little to do with keeping the hardware working with new games, more with keeping the spirit of 3dfx alive.

That is what you are missing.

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i 4t people would embrace the idea of new technology.

You assume much- I have a P4 in the corner with a wicked overclocked 9800Pro. I play 90's vintage games on my V5-6000 or Mercury system though ;-)

For some people it's a challange, personally if someone wants to get Doom3 running on a Voodoo II more power to them.

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its a horrible way for 3dfx to die. it has lost its dignity by people flooding their old drivers with new, so called "enhanced" features and realeasing them as their own.


Question for you- If Nvidia bit the dust tomorrow do you think there would be websites keeping Nvidia products alive 5 years from now?

No, there would not because Nvidia did not do what 3dfx did which was revolutionize the PC market.

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i am just enjoying my right to freedom of speech.


On a private owned board that "freedom" is a privilage granted by the owner and admins and can be revoked at will for violating the board rules or even at the board owners whim.

What you going to do, call Jesse Jackson if your not allowed to post?

Title: y bother?
Post by: BFG3dfx on 04 May 2005, 04:19:05
Ah, this is so funny, its like hes upset about his rotten life and is gonna share it with us and the fact he picked the 3dfx part of this board proves it, why come and tell ppl that are enjoying themselfs to stop it, very sad little fellow, dont anyone be mad at him hes not very happy or wouldnt have ever come here, he would have gone to a nvidia board and talked with his fellow nvidia friends, poor fellow
Title: y bother?
Post by: Amigamerlin on 04 May 2005, 08:02:08
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i used to be part of a forum long ago that supported 3dfx. my interest ended in 3dfx when the countless complaints came flowing in that no games would work or programs wouldnt function in windows due to display problems.

Ok, but this was the past !! now is completely different !!

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indeed no one has produced a "new" fully working driver that isnt based on old drivers that corrects this. if they had i prolly wouldnt be here now.

Again, this was the PAST. Actually driver are completely NEW driver, with all the section re-writed (glide3x, opengl, D3D rewritten). Sure they are not perfect but we are doing a lot of step in the right direction.

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it has lost its dignity by people flooding their old drivers with new, so called "enhanced" features and realeasing them as their own. fine it was great for quake 3 etc. hell they were great days.

I'm lost. Who loose their dignity? We at 3dfxzone surely not !! I'm wrong? If you think different about, you have to motivate what do you write and you can't come here and writing what you wrote !!

Fact is fact and are different. We at 3dfxzone, starting from a point, have released only NEW set of driver and personally I've released a complete NEW SET with Amigamerlin 3.1-R6. For New set I intend not older 3dfx files related!! In fact NEW OPENGL (from mesa.. thanks Daniel) NEW D3D CORE  (from SFFT) new Glide3x (from sourceforge), old /new (new becase not from 3dfx) Glide2x wrapper from Colourless.

A driver Born from community and interely not 3dfx releated !! Skilled Guys have lost a lot time coding this set and if you are trying to write that are FAKE, I can become really really mad.

I think you loose the point and wrinting what you wrote without reflect you INSULTING US, what we have do in the past and what we are doing right now. I think you should try NEW DRIVER before talk about it [}:)] and talking without the knowledge .

I rememeber you again that this place is where is now the soul and the spirit of 3dfx and this place have a STRONG COMMUNITY. Obviously if you came here "trolling" no one can say you "welcome".  

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theres no point banning me beacsue i wont be back. i am just enjoying my right to freedom of speech.
cya.

Maybe you are right, we have no point for banning you but if you come here for begin a flame or for ranting us "ditch your voodoo cards" you are not in the right place, and falming is against the forum's rules.
Title: y bother?
Post by: Nightbird on 04 May 2005, 08:50:27
Quotei used to be part of a forum long ago that supported 3dfx. my interest ended in 3dfx when the countless complaints came flowing in that no games would work or programs wouldnt function in windows due to display problems. indeed no one has produced a "new" fully working driver that isnt based on old drivers that corrects this. if they had i prolly wouldnt be here now.
So it sounds that you were on this other forum a very long time ago...
No one has produced a "new" driver ? sorry but you're in late. Never heard spoken of MesaFx or SFFT or Glide at SourceForge? A new OpenGl Icd has been written also.
But The difference with the programers that you find with Ati, Nvidia, S3, XGI... is easy to understand : noone here is a professional programer (except D.Borca) and noone is paid for their job ; all is free and taken on their free time.
So feel free to contribute before critizing...without knowing...

Quoteits a horrible way for 3dfx to die. it has lost its dignity by people flooding their old drivers with new, so called "enhanced" features and realeasing them as their own
What's horrible way to die ? Sorry but you're wrong ; it keeps its dignity because some people improved "old" cores or released "new" cores, because some boards exist always giving the support without needing to flame the old hardware...

Read again this topic that you opened. 4 years after their death, 3dfx can always cause some "passion".
I don't think that we will see the same if Ati or NVidia dead one day.

You've decided to move on ? you're free, no ? like many people here owning "in the corner" a machine with the last new gfx card... So what's the problem for you ?

Quotesooner you realise that ur the laughing stock of the gfx card comminity the better.
Frankly no problem for me and if you have still a doubt, "your" "gfx card community" would not exist without 3dfx.
Title: y bother?
Post by: hanksemenec on 04 May 2005, 11:51:13
We still love to tinker with VooDoo!
Why?
Because we can :D

Depending on your skill level, you can learn a lot about 3D implementation. Sure you can read books etc., but you can not replace hands on experience and experimentation. Try that with some one elses hardware and software.

For those about to VooDoo, I salute you!

Hank
Title: y bother?
Post by: bloodworm on 04 May 2005, 17:47:14
My voodoo rush did more for my gaming experience than any "new" card I have bought since.  in fact, the latest and greatest Nvidia cards are just NOW beginning to show some features that the VOODOO cards had way back when.  Anyone remember when you first ran quake III networked with friends on a Voodoo card? and the ammo firing from the gun flying down the hallways lighted up the walls around it and followed the ammo as it went (a glide function to be sure)?  all my friends were like OOOOH and AAAAHHH, the next week, everyone went out and bought the new V2's and one upped me AGAIN (damn them :0)  way better than the 2D cards we had to work with back then I'll tell yaa!.  And even today, I see this exact "feature" in the games just now creeping back into the new fangled direct3d hardware stuff.
Title: y bother?
Post by: Fitter on 03 September 2006, 07:28:19
I realize that this is an old posting but can't help but comment.
I am new to your forum but not to VooDoo, and myself appreciate the work the guys keeping our so called relics alive are doing. I myself still run VooDoo's from the original Monster 3D, straight through a V5-5500 including a velocity 100 running on windows 3.11& NT 3.51. (5 old computers total running just about every version of windows+ some linux)
I guess I'm showing my age there, and would love to get my hands on a working V5-6000 and put it to use.(just don't trust eBay! for this one)

So to Amigamerlin, Hank Semenec, and all the others helping to keep our old relics alive, I Salute You and much appreciated Thanks!

Who do the VooDoo like you do?
Title: y bother?
Post by: Obi-Wan Kenobi on 06 September 2006, 20:25:19
well can't say that people shouldn't trust ebay for a Voodoo 5 6000, since many people that have one got thiers from ebay and some others like me bought them internally via 3dfx boards :)

3dfx Rules, 3dfx means life to me and to many others here, it even helped me clear my mind from the past.
3dfx works like a medication for me, the fun of us'n such legendary hardware is that it still works without hitches and other strange problems I thank all the peopl that run the boards, make the drivers and even fix the cards without you people the 3dfx world would of been a much lonlier place.

The Force ture Shines in your hearts!!

Just bought 6 boxed 3dfx cards the last 3 days for total 480 euro's , I could of bought an ATi X1900 CrossFire card, but they are nothing but mass prduction stuff   so the following cards made me go for them instead [:P]

3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 AGP USA Sealed from Osckhar Espana
3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 PCI USA Sealed from Osckhar Espana
dfx Voodoo MAC 5500 PCI Euro Boxed from ebay United States of America
3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 PCI Euro Boxed from ebay U.K.
3dfx Voodoo 3 3000 AGP USA Boxed from ebay United States of America
Supertech Voodoo3 3000 AGP Boxed from ebay Belgium

3dfx for EVA my friends for EVA!! 3dfx still lives within us! and no other brand fan boy will stop us from do'n so, they will only be evaded and ignored.[}:)]
Title: y bother?
Post by: Voodoo5 on 07 September 2006, 04:04:52
Playing glquake on my newly purchased voodoo video card is the single greatest PC experience I have ever had, for the first time I really became attached to a hardware company and the direction they were taking graphics on the PC, and I have been a fan ever since!

Hail 3dfx :D
Title: y bother?
Post by: Obi-Wan Kenobi on 07 September 2006, 11:17:49
Great words Voodoo5 great words mate ;) w00t!

3dfx shall always envy us fans and it will always shine in our hearts deeply.
Title: y bother?
Post by: trigger on 23 September 2006, 16:36:20
Quotehonnestly y bother with old hardware thats long dead n never works with any of the latest games?
y bother? ....mmmmmmm? Cause maybe I don't want to run any of the latest games on my voodoo. EF2000 runs just fine with two Voodoo2's in SLI. And as far as I know no wrapper can wrap that, even if it could, it wouldn't be the same.

sorry 2 b blunt poooooo, but what you've said was complete horse$hit. :D

I really love this freedom of speech thing! ;)
Title: y bother?
Post by: Gaz on 04 June 2014, 02:20:57
Sorry for the old thread bump.. But I've just read this and I'd also like to say how good it is to see people keeping these old cards alive.

Its great work what you guys do..

As for poo poo... People do embrace New technology. Just because people like old stuff doesn't mean they don't also play games on gf780 cards like my bros.

Having an interest in old tech whether its 3DFX or aC64 doesn't mean you're out of touch with the New stuff... It just means you have a hobby.

Personally... Im quite happy with my geforce 560ti. It may not be top notch.. But i don't see the point wasting money on a 500 pound card. I don't play much because i have a life outside of gaming... But when i do game its mostly older stuff.. Second hand games and hardware etc. But if you want to waste your time and hard earned money on an upgrade every year or so.. Then that's your choice mister poo poo.

Personally Id much rather spend my time and money on weekends away with my girl friend and tbh... I actually find i use my retro3dfx voodoo 5 build more than my i5 geforce 560ti. Modern gaming can get very samey and boring after a while. New games don't really interest me because its just a very small part of my life. So if owning a 3DFX card and only playing a little and spending hardly any money makes me a laughing stock.. Then so be it. Its only a game dude. Maybe poo poo is the one who needs a life.
Title: y bother?
Post by: H-street on 05 June 2014, 18:11:26
i know this is old but my replay to this is.


Because i just can't keep kids off my lawn with new cards...


Get off my lawn you good for nothings!....
Title: y bother?
Post by: oz999 on 17 February 2015, 14:57:24
"What?! It was only logical with you all being collector nerd types that you don't get out much or have a gf."

But seriously, could he be any more clueless? He didn't perhaps think that might offend anyone?