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Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: Ree on 02 May 2005, 21:12:41
hello, i'm having a small problem with NFS: Porsche Unleashed. as recommended, I have Amigamerlin's 2.9 drivers installed (+ latest mesafx) for voodoo3 2000. by default, PU launches in d3d mode (yes, even with voodoo's, except voodoo2) and i must say my card performs very well in this mode. however, since we all know that voodoos go best with glide, i did a small trick and launched the game in glide mode. and to my surprise the performance was worse compared to d3d mode! could someone explain me this? i would really like to find out what is wrong here.
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: Nightbird on 02 May 2005, 21:34:50
Quotesurprise the performance was worse compared to d3d mode
how exactly ?
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: Ree on 03 May 2005, 20:39:01
well fps drop is clearly noticeable.
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: Jules on 04 May 2005, 15:08:12

Is NFS Porsche playable in glide ?

Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: Nightbird on 04 May 2005, 15:47:46
Yes

@ Ree
how do you enable Glide in NFS 5 ?
(i need to be sure here)


Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: Ree on 04 May 2005, 17:48:31
in 3dsetup.ini, instead of using 'dx', use 'voodoo2' string. for example, in my case (voodoo3) by default the entry is 'CARD_3Dfx Voodoo3 /M:dx /I' (d3d mode), in order to start the game in glide, i would use 'CARD_3Dfx Voodoo3 /M:voodoo2 /I'. the only voodoo cards that start the game in glide by default are voodoo and voodoo rush, all others start in d3d by default. but definately, the performance is better in d3d mode, maybe this is why they left it the way it is.
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: Ree on 06 May 2005, 20:38:15
Nightbird? any explanation/fix you could provide on this?
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: ggab on 07 May 2005, 07:44:35
there is a VOODOOZ.DLL or something like this in Porche's folder (tell me details of those files)

then, with REGEDIT search the GAME's entry, and locate the render's folder key... (i can't remember it)
i guess, CURRENT USER / SOFTWARE....
there, u can find the exact render filename in a KEY, something like "voodooz.dll" somewhere.

//i can't tested it right now
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: Ree on 07 May 2005, 17:43:50
nah, i understand it uses the voodoo2.dll. what i don't understand is why i get low fps in glide compared to d3d...
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: secretfj on 07 May 2005, 18:25:08
coz the game is optimized for DirectX?

i played high stake using V2SLI(in Glide Mode) and GeForce 2 MX(in DirectX mode)
i have to say that they performance just the same...
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: baskapteijn on 16 May 2005, 16:29:50
Nfs porche runs like a charm inhere. Using amigamerlin 3.1 r6, all graphics high 1024x768x32. D3D.

Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: Ree on 21 May 2005, 18:51:49
baskapteijn - you didn't get the topic correct, right?
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: MUDASS on 20 July 2005, 04:49:25
I've been playing porsche unleashed with bdreams software on my V3 2000 and it was nice and fast on my p2-333. It's similar as mesafx but tuned for NFS only. the file is called Bestnfs.  You should be able to find it here www.bdreams.012webpages.com, if not let me know I think I still have it over here.
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: Nightbird on 20 July 2005, 07:16:56
Sorry, it's not similar to MesaFx.
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: MUDASS on 05 August 2005, 05:56:17
Nightbird, you should be right.  I'm not an IT.  To me it's all drivers and libraries throwing in games path.

Ree, I tried your trick to play in Glide and I end up with same result.  I have a Voodoo 5, so I tried to add it there(v5 was not out when game was released) but as you might guess, it crashed.  So I changed the V3 card like you did and it become a little laggy.  Makes me wondering if this game is using both vsa chips to run?  Even with mesafx ?  Now Could it be that it needs a newer voodoo2z.dll, as there is none in mesafx? Or mesafx drivers doesn't need this dll?

I have voodoo2z 2002 version 8192.16.35.5942 and glide3x from mesafx 6.1. It's fast and clean in dx, and slower too when forcing glide.  Maybe I'll try to copy glide3x.dll in drivers folder and change dx by glide3x in 3dsetup.ini, instead of voodoo2.
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: ggab on 10 August 2005, 10:34:21
nfs porsche comes with 8192.2.35.5895 (2000.02.23.1707) voodoo2z.dll

MUDASS, where do u get that 2002? version? (and file's date)
Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: MUDASS on 12 August 2005, 04:30:28
I got that from www.bdreams.012webpages.com a few winters ago. They had dropped this driver they called BestNFS on Voodoofiles.  I had nice result with it.  I just took a peek of the site and it's exactly the same as I remember...   But I couldn't find the driver there.  Maybe it,s still on voodoofiles...  I'll try to upload it here anyways.  You'll tell me if it's good or if I've been fooled.

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Title: Poor Performance NFS Porsche + glide?
Post by: ggab on 13 August 2005, 09:12:14
thanks, i'll try the updated version :)