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Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: Vanilias Ronk on 08 August 2005, 23:14:10
Hi!
I've got a Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped card, it fits AGP 4x/8x 1.5V slot, and worked me perfect in MSI nForce 420Pro mainboard in AGP 4x mode, but I read on FalconFly it's impossible. :) So I'd like to ask, how could it work for me? Thanks.
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: NitroX infinity on 08 August 2005, 23:37:45
The card is most likely from PowerColor. These cards are 3.3Volt AGP2x cards even though they have the AGP4x notch.

Only built by 3dfx Voodoo 4's are 1.5Volt.
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: Nightbird on 09 August 2005, 00:39:56
QuoteI've got a Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped card, it fits AGP 4x/8x 1.5V slot, and worked me perfect in MSI nForce 420Pro mainboard in AGP 4x mode,
what's the revision of the card ?
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: Vanilias Ronk on 09 August 2005, 07:14:10
I didn't find any rev number, just S/N: M42815 and 2 other such like numbers: 210-0908-01 at the back side of the card and 210-0435-001 at the front side (this is white painted).
But my card looks a little different like on picture of FalconFly (http://falconfly.de/identify/3dfx_Voodoo4-4500_AGP_L-Shaped.jpg), it has just one little capacitor, not 2 big, and it hasn't 2 "6R8 BI" whatsit. :) And it has APistek cooler instead of AAVID.
Looks like this:
http://www.mercadolibre.cl/jm/img?s=MLC&f=3079323_4735.jpg
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: NitroX infinity on 09 August 2005, 11:22:47
That first one is the 3dfx prototype 'L' card. The second one is the PowerColor card.
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: Vanilias Ronk on 09 August 2005, 17:56:48
But it worked in a mb that support just 1.5V. How? Both weren't damaged.
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: NitroX infinity on 09 August 2005, 18:52:01
I've read about some people using a 3.3Volt card in a 1.5Volt AGP slot.
It worked fine for a couple of months but then the cards went dead.

Can't remember where I read it, I think it was on FalconFly's forums.
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: Vanilias Ronk on 09 August 2005, 23:51:02
Thanks.
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: Rolo01 on 10 August 2005, 09:38:12
When I recall right, it was Oscar with his V5-5500 AGP4x.
He used it for about half a year in a i865 mainboard and it worked OK.
But then the card was dead, out of a sudden.
This is very sad, especially when using a prototype card...
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: Vanilias Ronk on 10 August 2005, 19:04:56
Anyone who use a prototype is insane, he killed a peculiar piece of computer history...
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: bloodworm on 10 August 2005, 20:08:25
I'm pretty sure the powercolor cards work just fine in a 1.5V slot.  it was the V5 that had problems, and I only heard of the one.  if the notch is present, it will work in a 1.5V slot.  I have seen some OTHER manufacturers boards (diamond viper) that needed the jumper to be physically moved in order to work in a 1.5V slot, but these were before the 1.5V slot had become a reality past the drawing board.
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: NitroX infinity on 10 August 2005, 20:34:14
http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=techtalk;action=display;num=1109647799

Only 3dfx' V4's are 1.5Volt.
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: Vanilias Ronk on 10 August 2005, 20:41:19
I don't believe it, this test is wrong, how can a 4500 beat out a 5500?
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: bloodworm on 10 August 2005, 23:14:16
I will have to pull my evilkings out of the boxes to look.  looks like there are some SLIGHT differences that may make a 3.3V capable board run them at 3.3V instead of 1.5V (resistors on the board show the motherboard what to set the voltage and speed to)......  I do not see any problem running one in a 1.5/0.8V capable board, as the card will only see 1.5V max and the cards ARE rated to 1.5V OR 3.3V.....  the V5 4x board is only ONE prototype that was blown, so this is NOT a good indicatoe of what the evilkings are capable of voltage wise.  the dual chip nature of the V5's prohibited the 4X AGP motherboard bridge chips from running them correctly anyways.
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: BFG3dfx on 11 August 2005, 03:54:30
3dfx v4-lcard is agp 4x 1.5v and its no protype, just the same as the regular v4 4500 card, as far as it being faster than a v5, it is and it isnt, first off it is if bandwidth isnt a problem in a new mobo and cpu, no matter what ppl say a cpu will take up where a 3dfx card leaves off, i got a score of 4100 with my L-card at low settings 2001se with a 3200 400fsb, same in games, as long as badwidth not needed, v5 scores higher in bandwidth though of course. o for those that say the  3dfx cant make use of a faster cpu, wrong, the card might stop but the cpu wont,
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: Vanilias Ronk on 11 August 2005, 07:18:54
Low settings? 640x480? At least 800x600 gives a useable result, a newer (2000<) game can't be comestible 640x480. My Voodoo 4 4500 AGP scored 2300 points in 3DMark 2001SE 1024x768 (Athlon XP 2400+ T-Bred B, nForce 1, AGP 4x).
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: BFG3dfx on 13 August 2005, 06:15:19
yes that was lowest setting but even at 800 by 600 it beat it, the v4 didnt beat the v5, the faster cpu beat the slower cpu, but what is the difference, if a v5 cant go in a faster mobo its not the v4's fault, i wish i had a v4 with 64 megs of ram darnit
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: Vanilias Ronk on 13 August 2005, 10:46:10
Nice dream, I wish it come true. ;)
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: Vanilias Ronk on 13 August 2005, 12:36:21
800x600 needs at least 56% more work from CPU, 1024x768 156%. I think any CPU hasn't so much power, and nobody plays in 640x480.
If CPU is first, you can play in software mode.
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: BFG3dfx on 14 August 2005, 08:40:05
now someone else has gone over 4400 with a v4, with a cpu at 2403, wonder if anyone will ever reach the 5000 mark with a 3dfx card?
Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: edmundoab on 23 August 2005, 21:16:28
damn I was so close to winning an L shaped 4500 on ebay
sadly, forgot about the auction on a fine weekend :)

Title: Voodoo 4 4500 L-shaped
Post by: BFG3dfx on 24 August 2005, 07:46:15
i had a chance to get a couple more once and blew it off, wish i would have gotten em now