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#16
General Discussions / Voodoo 2 with 3 Tmu's
09 July 2005, 14:57:51
Yes, one company did build cards with three TMU's.
#17
True, the seller did indicate it worked fine with the AGP2PCI adapter and the HiNT chip getting hot does indicate the motherboard isn't working proper with the V6K.
#18
QuoteOriginally posted by roflkopp

but a MSI K7T266-Pro

Added to incompatible list.
#19
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What's about SIS645 and SIS651 Chipsets? Are they Pentium-M compatible? A Pentium-M@2.66GHz would rock with Voodoo5 6000.

Stay away from any P4 chipsets, nothing but trouble.

The Barton 3000+ is about as fast as you can go, indeed the card is the bottleneck in the system pretty much by then anyway.
#20
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V6k: PC2A 94V-0 3700
    210-0391-001-A

A7M266: Rev.1.04

Thank you for the information, it has been added to the database.
#21
QuoteOriginally posted by roflkopp

I got it yesterday from pandyno (www.hwinit.it), and it does not work at an ASUS A7M266 (AMD760)

What date & revision V6K? What version A7M266?

I'll add the information to a VERY extensive V6K FAQ page I'm working on, I hope to have it open in 1-2 weeks. I still have to finish an internal hookup guide and a series of benchmarks with a Barton 3000+
#22
QuoteOriginally posted by baskapteijn

Well, for as far as i know:

Voodoo 1 was sli capable with one tmu, they used the voodoo 1 tmu en frame buffer with one extra tmu on the voodoo 2 cards.


The Voodoo Graphics could SLI with up to three TMU's for each board.

Can anyone name the company that made Voodoo Graphics and Voodoo II boards with 3 TMU's?

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agp 2x in most cases means 3.3 v. Agp 1-4x means 3.3/1.5 capable. agp 8x means 0.8 and 1.5 v capable. So no agp 1/2x capability.


All the Voodoo AGP cards are AGP 1/2x except for the V4-4500 which is an 4x part. The AGP 1/2/4 spec allows only one master device to be visible on the AGP bus which is why the V5-6000 has a HiNT chip.

In an ironic twist the AGP 8x spec removed that limit.

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Voodoo 3 is a redesigned banshee core (non sli capable for as far as I know, nor was the banshee)


As noted already, the AAlchemy 4116 disproves that. The Voodoo 3 was fully SLI capable.

#23
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All 3dfx chips from Voodoo Graphics onward were designed for SLI, all being basically the same chip.


False.

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The Voodoo3 is in basic terms a single chip Voodoo2, again SLI is a foregone conclusion.


False. (SLI being a foregone conclusion)

<troll bait ignored>

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Whatever the popularly reported excuses, the Voodoo5 6000 was unmarketable and would never have sold as a mainstream graphics card to the masses.  


Define "mainstream graphics card," like the 7800GTX?

Neither card was intended for mainstream use.

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Not limited to "AGP 2x" at all.  In fact a full production card could quite feasibly have made 4x AGP and been fully AGP 2.0 compliant with the exception of DIME support, though without this what would be the point?


Wrong- The SLI boards cannot do AGP x 4 due to the SLI setup.

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Voodoo Rush is a universally accepted failure, 2D performence is vitally important as is 3D.  


You make me laugh out loud today, trolls good for something.

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 I wouldn't believe the fairy stories about those high clock speeds unless I had the card here and saw it myself with my own eyes.  


Since I have a few Daytona boards I can assure you the tales are true.

But then again your here to troll so nothing said here matters to you eh? If your here try helping instead of bashing, your feelings about 3dfx are well known by reviewing your past posts.

#24
I am working on a V6K FAQ page soon and I'm looking for all manner of information. Rumors, facts, revisions, board numbers made, technical info, etc, the whole 9 yards!

If you have any links to info nuggets from former 3dfx people talking about the cards, odd reviews on the web, private snippets here and there please let me know.

Subjects covered-

History & trivia
All Revisions
Voodoo Volts
Internal hookup guide & power supply suggestions
PCI rework technical data
AGP2PCI
Motherboard list
Driver and bios settings
Benchmarks with Barton 3000+ vs G-force 1/2/3 boards.

Gary
#25
"Napalm would have been unable to compete with GeForce, so it was redesigned to support multiple chip configurations, like the Voodoo 2 had. The end-product was named VSA-100, which stood for Voodoo Scalable Architecture."

1) This is incorrect as the VSA-100 chips were designed from day one for SLI operation.
2) The Voodoo 3 can be operated in multi-chip configuration as well, see AAlchemy 4116.
3) What hurt 3dfx the most was missing the product cycles and not releasing product on time, this let ATI and Nv catch up, then pass 3dfx in performance.

"The Voodoo 5 6000 never got to the market, due to a severe bug resulting in data corruption on the AGP bus on certain boards"

No, it had a problem with signal noise on the internal PCI bus caused by a PCB design flaw.

"limited to AGP 2x, which would have prevented its use on the then-new Pentium 4 motherboards"

The AGP modes has little to do with it, the 5500 and 6000 require 3.3 volts on the AGP supply and the Intel P4 chipsets only supply 1.5 volts. Intel could have choosen to design the chipset with 3.3 volts support (as AMD did up to the VIA KT-333a) but did not.

"Voodoo 4 was as much of a disaster as Voodoo Rush"

The only problem with the Voodoo 4 was it was pitted against the GFMX2 which had a much better price/performance ratio. The Rush had high performance expectations (in reality it performed 10% worse then Voodoo Graphics, which was still was better then many other solutions!) and some software incompatibilities. If you read the press reviews at the time the board was mocked for it's poor "2D" performance which is rather quaint since no one cares about "2D performance" anymore.

You mention Rampage too as the next product, while Rampage was important the real important product was DAYTONA. Daytona fixed several problems with Napalm and was made on a smaller micron die process. 3dfx had plans for making single, double and quad chip boards using Daytona and the chip would run 143-180 mhz with ease with no active cooling required.

Daytona boards have been noted being clocked as high as 260+ mhz, but that is a story for another day ;-)
#26
General Discussions / y bother?
04 May 2005, 03:22:47
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suppose the point am tryin to get accross is y bother with hardware thats slowly rotting away.


It has little to do with keeping the hardware working with new games, more with keeping the spirit of 3dfx alive.

That is what you are missing.

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i 4t people would embrace the idea of new technology.

You assume much- I have a P4 in the corner with a wicked overclocked 9800Pro. I play 90's vintage games on my V5-6000 or Mercury system though ;-)

For some people it's a challange, personally if someone wants to get Doom3 running on a Voodoo II more power to them.

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its a horrible way for 3dfx to die. it has lost its dignity by people flooding their old drivers with new, so called "enhanced" features and realeasing them as their own.


Question for you- If Nvidia bit the dust tomorrow do you think there would be websites keeping Nvidia products alive 5 years from now?

No, there would not because Nvidia did not do what 3dfx did which was revolutionize the PC market.

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i am just enjoying my right to freedom of speech.


On a private owned board that "freedom" is a privilage granted by the owner and admins and can be revoked at will for violating the board rules or even at the board owners whim.

What you going to do, call Jesse Jackson if your not allowed to post?

#27
General Discussions / y bother?
04 May 2005, 00:04:11
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If you're going to quote me then try to quote my entire paragrapgh as that is only partial and thus quite misleading...

And I think you'll find I was 'there'... ;)

I wasn't talking about you.



#28
General Discussions / y bother?
03 May 2005, 21:52:31
QuoteOriginally posted by Caravel

Well I'm not sure mr 'pooo' really insulted any of you, though you have responded by insulting him.

If you review my post, I answered the question with no insults.

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Indeed the cards are old, and indeed an individual would most likely be better off with a Geforce4 than a Voodoo5 6000 if playing newer games without any kind of fuss on the agenda.

Heh, it's nothing to do with playing newer games.

As they say, you would had to have been there to understand where one comes from.
#29
QuoteThe V3 1000 and 3500 (And Velocity) were strictly AGP.

Just a note- Powercolor *may* have made a 3500 PCI board, I'm still looking into it.

#30
General Discussions / y bother?
03 May 2005, 04:47:07
It's simple, I'm a lunatic.