I am thinking abaut giving on my Voodoo5 5500 256MB of Ram.
Has any one already done it??? Will it work???
That won't work. The VSA 100 chips can only adress a maximum of 64 MB per chip, AFAIK. So the only thing that might work, is getting the V5 to 128 MB total.
Check falconfly's forum.
It's already done (128MB card). Card is being recognised as a 128MB card at startup but games won't use the extra 64MB, most likely a driver issue.
Sorry, not done (128 mb).
And if you're speaking about an other forum for the V5 128 mb, since they are known to be fakkers...
http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=techtalk;action=display;num=1087131259;start=150#150
Indeed, i have forgot this attempt. [:p]
You would probably have better success putting faster RAM on the card.
unless you are some sort of scintiste who has accesse to a lab
and a bunch of VERY talanted peuple, you could do it. IF you
have the Voodoo scematics and paper work, all of it.
Wow think of it, a lab wich could acttually, change the VPU to
of a the Voodoo 1/2/3/4/5 (Bashee) with a same VPU but on a
smaller micron (let's say somthing like a 0.90 could be nice).
and also change the memory to a bigger one based on a DDR type.
Ufff, why did 3DFx managment was so stupid?!
changing vpu is like making a new card ;)
3dfx was just small company and thier development speed was killing them..
vider; I suggest you read this topic on FalconFly's forum entirely:
http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=techtalk;action=display;num=1087131259
The only thing you need to replace your current RAM is the proper replacement RAM, soldering experience and a good soldering apparatus.
i think replacing the V4 4500 's 32MB RAM with 64MB -5/-4ns SDRAM, followed by BIOS overclock/4x FSAA Crack would be a really great idea, maybe it can blow GeForce 2 Pro DDR away when using 4xAA with superb image quality....
A GF2-pro gives a V5-6000 a run for the money, I doubt a hot rodded V4 would even come close.
Been there, ran the benchmarks.
seems Nv's AA ability is far behind Voodoo in terms of speed..
just read a review about a GeForce 2 MX and V4 4500...
V4 beats GF2MX seriously almost in all test when AA is opened...
this problem for GeForce Continue in GFFX series (i've tried a GeForce FX 5200, when 2XFSAA is opened, it doesn't run with better visual quality but with terrible speed slowdown..
GeForce 2 MX vs V4 4500 with AA? gf2mx can't do AntiAliasing afaik.
and fx5200 is a low-end that's why AA so badly impacts performance.
as i can remember, there is option for GeForce 2 MX to enable FSAA....but i haven't tried it..you know, actually the cards at that time is never powerful enough to do FSAA...
the chance of V4 4500 i think is that i supports AGP 4X so new CPUs like P4 with over 3G and Athlon 64/FX can use it...and to explore its possibilities..
also giving more/faster memory to V4 4500 is the only project for VSA-100 proven working so far
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/v44500/default.asp
QuoteOriginally posted by secretfj
seems Nv's AA ability is far behind Voodoo in terms of speed..
just read a review about a GeForce 2 MX and V4 4500...
I did a page of benchmarks just a few months ago- at 1024 x 768 with 2 x AA in Quake3 the 4500 takes a 11 fps loss to a GF2 MX.
I haven't got a V4500 yet (one is on its way from the US to Hong Kong here)
at the meantime the benchmark done by others..
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/v44500/page10.asp
Gary, I think GF2 did FSAA in software, so it can't be fast.
secretfj's link shows Gf2 wasn't weak with a PII processor, as were the voodoos. With what did you do your tests?
Anyway this is becoming of-topic[:o)]...
QuoteOriginally posted by secretfj
as i can remember, there is option for GeForce 2 MX to enable FSAA....but i haven't tried it..you know, actually the cards at that time is never powerful enough to do FSAA...
the chance of V4 4500 i think is that i supports AGP 4X so new CPUs like P4 with over 3G and Athlon 64/FX can use it...and to explore its possibilities..
also giving more/faster memory to V4 4500 is the only project for VSA-100 proven working so far
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/v44500/default.asp
AGP4x does nothing for voodoos since they doesn't use agp texturing.
checked gf2mx spec, my bad - gf2mx supports fsaa.
about maxing out voodoos.. the best shot i guess would be replacing voodoo5 6000 rams, vmodding it, putting a superb cooling, and overclocking it to hell (first you have to figure how to do oc, because afaik all current tools can't oc all gpus and oc'ing only one doesn't give any performance boost ).
Other crazy idea would be giving quantum3d aalchemy 8164 (8 x vsa100) a shot ;)
@r21vo,
Quote(first you have to figure how to do oc, because afaik all current tools can't oc all gpus and oc'ing only one doesn't give any performance boost ).
You certainly can overclock all gpu's on a voodoo 5500, just use the following utility (VSA100 Overclocker v.1.00) made by Koolsmokey ;)
https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/3dfx/voodoo5/tweak.htm
Going from the stock 166 mhz to my current 191 mhz gives me a huge 10-15 fps extra in games and benchmarks. I am very lucky in that I have an exceptionally great overclocking card (Hyundai ram), my other two 5500's will only safely (no visual artifacts) go to 185 mhz (another agp model with Hyundai ram)and 180 mhz (pci with Toshiba ram).
I personally think that although geforce 2 cards are somewhat similar in performance, I prefer the VSA 100's visual output (colour's are more vibrant & FSAA is far superior) over any geforce 2 I have seen or used.
o, Koolsmokey has already found a way :)
"supports Voodoo4 4500, Voodoo5 5500 and Voodoo5 6000" - this is eyecandy :)
Voodoos have superb 2d quality (recently felt that when compared image quality to s3 unichrome), and old gfs are useless when it comes to FSAA ;)
QuoteOriginally posted by r21vo
o, Koolsmokey has already found a way :)
"supports Voodoo4 4500, Voodoo5 5500 and Voodoo5 6000" - this is eyecandy :)
Voodoos have superb 2d quality (recently felt that when compared image quality to s3 unichrome), and old gfs are useless when it comes to FSAA ;)
so i am very satisfied with my V3 3000...clear and sharp output on my 15" LCD
even better that my sister's Radeon 9100VE (maybe due to the manufacturer's quality..i bought it in about $45USD a few years ago)
oh..it too off-topic..
QuoteOriginally posted by agrelaphon
Gary, I think GF2 did FSAA in software, so it can't be fast.
Fast enough to beat a V6000 in some benchmarks, who cares how it's done?
The page in on my website under "benchmarks"