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Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 22 April 2004, 18:46:48
HI.My system configuration is:
P4 3.0GHz(800MHZ system bus)
MB:Ga 8IK1100 rev 1.0 bios ver F10
512Mb ram Dual chanel Samsung
Main video Hercules 3D Prophet Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
3Dfx Voodoo 2 made by Diamond (monster 3D II 12MB and InnoVision Mighty 3D II 12MB
Sound:Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS platinum and Areal Vortex 2
So.When I try to install my 3dfx cards in SLI mode. Glide games didnt work under Windows XP and 98.I tried many different ways to install my 3Dfx card in SLI mode but they didnt work at all.I'll tried all drivers from 3dfxzone.it.Please help me to run the Glide games on my system!  

Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: Nightbird on 22 April 2004, 20:41:42
Hum, do you get a error message ?
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 22 April 2004, 23:08:01
QuoteOriginally posted by Nightbird

Hum, do you get a error message ?
No.No error messages.5 minutes ago i've install 3DFX Voodoo 4 4500 AGP and under windows 98 Drivers succesfuly detected SLI and at that time screen blank for 1 second. All of my Glide games
succesfuly started on a SLI cards.But in Unreal i saw picture like on slow TFT monitors.I think that problem is in R9800PRO.
Please HELP!!! I cant work and play in latest games on my Voodoo 4.Its a cool video card but its too slow for 3DSmax modeling
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: unknownusermx on 23 April 2004, 10:25:25
Ok... I guess that ur problem is that ur V2 are from different vendors... so u need a mismatched driver...

go here:

https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/news/3dfx/fv2_4.5_b2_mm/

and try this drivers.... they are for Win 9x/Me.... and here:

https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/news/3dfx/v2_2kxp_mm_beta_0.22/

other ones for Win 2k/XP...

NOTE:This two drivers are BETA RELEASE...

SaLuDoS [:p]
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 23 April 2004, 19:47:13
QuoteOriginally posted by unknownusermx

Ok... I guess that ur problem is that ur V2 are from different vendors... so u need a mismatched driver...

go here:

https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/news/3dfx/fv2_4.5_b2_mm/

and try this drivers.... they are for Win 9x/Me.... and here:

https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/news/3dfx/v2_2kxp_mm_beta_0.22/

other ones for Win 2k/XP...

NOTE:This two drivers are BETA RELEASE...

SaLuDoS [:p]
I am already downdload both drivers.but i have the same problem.Like i sad when i replace my Radeon card with Voodoo 4 my SLI with those drivers function PROPERLY!Maybe my trouble is Radeon?And if it's true who can help me?
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 26 April 2004, 00:49:02
QuoteOriginally posted by White Voodoo Master

QuoteOriginally posted by unknownusermx

Ok... I guess that ur problem is that ur V2 are from different vendors... so u need a mismatched driver...

go here:

https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/news/3dfx/fv2_4.5_b2_mm/

and try this drivers.... they are for Win 9x/Me.... and here:

https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/news/3dfx/v2_2kxp_mm_beta_0.22/

other ones for Win 2k/XP...

NOTE:This two drivers are BETA RELEASE...

SaLuDoS [:p]
I am already downdload both drivers.but i have the same problem.Like i sad when i replace my Radeon card with Voodoo 4 my SLI with those drivers function PROPERLY!Maybe my trouble is Radeon?And if it's true who can help me?
HEY!!! I've turn off my RADEON 9800PRO Secondary in Windows98 and ALL Glide Games work fine.in WindowsXP they work only when i disabling SLI mode.Did someone know what is the Genport I/O error?
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: Manuelson on 29 April 2004, 08:56:16
sorry but the winxp mismatched drivers doesn't run at all by now..[:(]
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 29 April 2004, 20:39:03
QuoteOriginally posted by Manuelson

sorry but the winxp mismatched drivers doesn't run at all by now..[:(]
I agree.This stuped driver doesn't work! Many times i've reinstall it but it didnt work!!!
Who can tell me when author of this driver will fix this BUG? And how soon we can see new windows 98 mismatched drv
?And one more question.How to fix bug with my SLI mismatched Voodoo cards.Its not good that i turn off Radeon 9800Pro -Secondary
sorry for my english.
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: beta on 02 May 2004, 14:55:11
The mismatched drivers are not gauranteed to work every time, and  Monster3D II is not reference compatible,so don't expect to ever get those cards working together in SLI.  I'd advise you to aquire an identical card to one of your existing ones.  I have a Creative Lab's 3D Blaster II that won't work with reference boards in SLI.  This is commonly the case with Diamond/Orchid/Creative Voodoo2's.
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 03 May 2004, 10:39:04
QuoteOriginally posted by beta

The mismatched drivers are not gauranteed to work every time, and  Monster3D II is not reference compatible,so don't expect to ever get those cards working together in SLI.  I'd advise you to aquire an identical card to one of your existing ones.  I have a Creative Lab's 3D Blaster II that won't work with reference boards in SLI.  This is commonly the case with Diamond/Orchid/Creative Voodoo2's.
In Windows 98 my Voodoo cards works perfectly!I think this is only drivers problem.Those drivers didn't work at all.
I will wait full version of this drv and then will test it on my system
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: Manuelson on 09 May 2004, 00:31:58
the "win 98" release of these drivers for windows 98 is almost perfect.. when i'll have a bit of time, i'll try to solve the problem on the windows xp release although i haven't developed them..
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 09 May 2004, 07:49:36
QuoteOriginally posted by Manuelson

the "win 98" release of these drivers for windows 98 is almost perfect.. when i'll have a bit of time, i'll try to solve the problem on the windows xp release although i haven't developed them..
Ok.Thanks for your reply.Hmmm.In Windows 98 when Sli is enabled drivers didn't detect 24Mb ram on my Voodoo.But when i install mismatched drivers from RUSSIAN developer it detects 24 Mb perfectly.I know that it's not a trouble but i think you must fix this bug( if you want and have a time:))) Good luck!
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: Nightbird on 09 May 2004, 07:54:34
QuoteBut when i install mismatched drivers from RUSSIAN developer it detects 24 Mb perfectly
Interesting
Who is this Russian developer ? :)
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: Manuelson on 09 May 2004, 21:52:35
maybe is anrei osnovic
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 10 May 2004, 22:22:35
QuoteOriginally posted by Manuelson

maybe is anrei osnovic
Heh! This is ANDREI OSNOVICH.And those drivers (Modified Glide and D3D drivers) was written in 2000
This drivers kit is "Upgrade" to final Voodoo 2 drivers under Windows98 by 3Dfx interactive inc.
So i can say that is very good and stable drivers.Now i use them.But if you will update your product by fixing all those little bugs. Who knows maybe tommorow i'll install your driver kit.I dont know what drivers is faster - it is not a main problem.My opinion is: Drivers for mismatched Sli Voodoo 2 must be stable and compatible with mos games.
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: Nightbird on 10 May 2004, 23:35:01
Don't forgot that A. Osnovich wrote :
Note that this kind of SLI mix has some potential  unsafety being caused by possible differences in board architectures. I'm not aware of. So this binary is supplied as-is. It is your responsibility to decide whether to use it or not.
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 11 May 2004, 21:11:30
QuoteOriginally posted by Nightbird

Don't forgot that A. Osnovich wrote :
Note that this kind of SLI mix has some potential  unsafety being caused by possible differences in board architectures. I'm not aware of. So this binary is supplied as-is. It is your responsibility to decide whether to use it or not.
I know.But on my system everithing is ok.And all this notes about board diferences is not for me:)
In my system everithing is fine.But i have one problem (with all version of mismatched drivers)
I have a trouble with 2D.When windows 98 start, part of icons is white.And some text is _________
So i tried to reinstall many ATI catalyst drivers but nothing has happened.I could not soul this problem yet.
Maybe you know wat is it.Oh yes! I forget! When i install Matrox Mistique 220 PCI 4Mb evrithing ok.Maybe its Radeon's problem?
And one more about.With your drivers, when Vsync is disabled i have a picture problem in Glide API.For example in Unreal when i move mouse fast part of lines going left and another going right.When Vsync is enabled all is OK.I think it's because one Voodoo is 90Mhz and another is 93Mhz.And when the rendering in SLI one of them is slower than another one.I am waiting for WinXP release of mismatched drivers!:))
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: Manuelson on 14 May 2004, 08:26:51
yes, is so.. compliments for the sharpness..!
i solved also taking both voodoo2 to 97 mhz using voodoo2 oc

the problem "with icons" is guilt of the radeon i suppose..

if you are in contact with andre onsnovich why don't ask to him to develope the windws xp version of his driver?[:p];)

Regards, Manuelson
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 14 May 2004, 09:03:22
QuoteOriginally posted by Manuelson

yes, is so.. compliments for the sharpness..!
i solved also taking both voodoo2 to 97 mhz using voodoo2 oc

the problem "with icons" is guilt of the radeon i suppose..

if you are in contact with andre onsnovich why don't ask to him to develope the windws xp version of his driver?[:p];)

Regards, Manuelson
I am not in contact with Andrey. In Windows 98 i need to solve problem with icons because after some time of working i can't understand anything on my screen.So i heart that Amigamerlin XP had some problems with Radeon 9xxx cards.But all those problems are gone.Maybe i'll try to fix this? Oh yes! When i install one Voodoo2 everithing is FINE.
And one more question.Why you can't change the standart 3Dfx drives design.I mean icons pictures menus.I think its very nice to see some differences between standart and mismatched drivers.If my idea is interesting for you i am ready to help:)
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: Manuelson on 15 May 2004, 12:32:43
thanks for support, White Voodoo Master..but during the develope of the mismatched, my primary objective was to run everything fine..the "make up" will be in a far future, i suppose, i am very busy busy busy busy at the moment..if you want, feel free to mod them, no problem..!

the one thing that i surely do the next release is to ripristinate the old 3dfx welcome screen..do you remember it?;)
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 15 May 2004, 21:47:11
QuoteOriginally posted by Manuelson

thanks for support, White Voodoo Master..but during the develope of the mismatched, my primary objective was to run everything fine..the "make up" will be in a far future, i suppose, i am very busy busy busy busy at the moment..if you want, feel free to mod them, no problem..!

the one thing that i surely do the next release is to ripristinate the old 3dfx welcome screen..do you remember it?;)
Oh yes!I remember. I'ts very nice that you do not forget to update your drivers!:) I'am understand that you very very busy.Me too.
I have much experience in 3DSmax and i have and idea.What if my experience may be used to write demo in GLIDE mode?
Maybe it's stuped, but i supose it would be very interesting for Voodoo fans:)
Can you say how soon you will make new drivers release?:)
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: Manuelson on 16 May 2004, 02:00:31
surely during summer..i'll concentrate my attention to xp mismathed  sli drivers..
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 16 May 2004, 10:05:39
QuoteOriginally posted by Manuelson

surely during summer..i'll concentrate my attention to xp mismathed  sli drivers..
Cool! Good Lick!
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: Manuelson on 16 May 2004, 15:07:16
yes, my lick is not bad..[8D];)

ciao ciao and thanks for the support!:)
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: batracio on 16 May 2004, 17:23:11
Hi,

The trouble with 2D is due to "buggy" Catalyst drivers. I've been using a couple of Voodoo2 in SLI under Win98SE with Matrox G200, S3 Savage4, Nvidia GeForce256 DDR (by Creative) and PowerVR Kyro II (by Hercules), and none of them showed any incompatibility problem with 3dfx cards. Recently I got an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro (by Gigabyte) and desktop began to show garbage, corrupted icons and mouse pointers, incomplete texts and general unstability. I tried different Catalyst drivers (3.8, 4.2) with 3dfx's official 3.02.02 and some FastVoodoo2 releases, but nothing solved the trouble. The garbage dissapeared only when I took both 3dfx cards off the system.

Moral of the story: don't mix Radeon and Voodoo2 cards together.
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 16 May 2004, 18:57:24
QuoteOriginally posted by batracio

Hi,

The trouble with 2D is due to "buggy" Catalyst drivers. I've been using a couple of Voodoo2 in SLI under Win98SE with Matrox G200, S3 Savage4, Nvidia GeForce256 DDR (by Creative) and PowerVR Kyro II (by Hercules), and none of them showed any incompatibility problem with 3dfx cards. Recently I got an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro (by Gigabyte) and desktop began to show garbage, corrupted icons and mouse pointers, incomplete texts and general unstability. I tried different Catalyst drivers (3.8, 4.2) with 3dfx's official 3.02.02 and some FastVoodoo2 releases, but nothing solved the trouble. The garbage dissapeared only when I took both 3dfx cards off the system.

Moral of the story: don't mix Radeon and Voodoo2 cards together.
Thanks for your your reply.Today i will make my Radeon to be ATI FireGL card by installing special Soft FireGL driver.
Will see what will happend.:)
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: Manuelson on 17 May 2004, 19:23:32
good luck, white voodoo master!!!
Title: 2x Voodoo 2 (Diam. and Inno) cant work in SLI
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 18 May 2004, 19:17:47
QuoteOriginally posted by Manuelson

good luck, white voodoo master!!!
Good LUCK!!!