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Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: charly204 on 01 July 2005, 04:01:40
Hello!!
If I had a Voodoo Mac 5500 PCI, can it use on a X86 PC??
If it can, how??

Regards,
Charly
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: ps47 on 01 July 2005, 05:51:46
yes.you will have to flash the card with a pc bios.see here (http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1902)..
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: Chips on 01 July 2005, 06:56:28
Um, yes and just don't worry about the problems I had in that thread PS47 has referenced - that card was DEAD so that was the real problem.

I purchased another MAC PCI Voodoo 5 5500 the other day and it flashed fine - even the DVI works!  You just have to ensure you use the version 1.18 BIOS.

I placed that vard in a Abit BE6 mobo with a PIII-500 running XP and the AmigaMerlin 3.1 drivers and I'm getting 40-60fps on Unreal Tournament! [:p]

Also, don't worry too much if the flash program locks up half way through programming the EEPROM - just reboot the PC and try again - it really is failsafe.[8D]
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: charly204 on 01 July 2005, 10:12:10
QuoteOriginally posted by Chips

Um, yes and just don't worry about the problems I had in that thread PS47 has referenced - that card was DEAD so that was the real problem.

I purchased another MAC PCI Voodoo 5 5500 the other day and it flashed fine - even the DVI works!  You just have to ensure you use the version 1.18 BIOS.

I placed that vard in a Abit BE6 mobo with a PIII-500 running XP and the AmigaMerlin 3.1 drivers and I'm getting 40-60fps on Unreal Tournament! [:p]

Also, don't worry too much if the flash program locks up half way through programming the EEPROM - just reboot the PC and try again - it really is failsafe.[8D]

Hi there!!
So if I flash the V1.18 BOIS then I can use it on PC??
Can I use the file "1.18PCIDV" that I download from "http://welcome.to/3dfxbios"??
Does the DVI works well?
I have some questions:
My mainboard is GA-7N700L with a ATI R9700 on AGP8X,
if I put a VoodooMAC on a pci slot, which card should I link my monitor?
And how to flash the BIOS?

My English is poor, hope you can understand.
Regards,
Charly
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: Chips on 01 July 2005, 10:34:11
Yes, I used the "1.18PCIDV" that I download from "http://welcome.to/3dfxbios" too.[8D]

Instructions are at http://welcome.to/3dfxbios as well.

DVI works great, but you can't use both the DVI and the SVGA at the same time (i.e. 2 monitors).

Put the monitor on the AGP card first so you can see what you are doing when you flash.

After you get the "flash successful" message, put the monitor on the PCI card and remove the AGP card.  Simple!
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: charly204 on 01 July 2005, 10:46:40
QuoteOriginally posted by Chips

Yes, I used the "1.18PCIDV" that I download from "http://welcome.to/3dfxbios" too.[8D]

Instructions are at http://welcome.to/3dfxbios as well.

DVI works great, but you can't use both the DVI and the SVGA at the same time (i.e. 2 monitors).

Put the monitor on the AGP card first so you can see what you are doing when you flash.

After you get the "flash successful" message, put the monitor on the PCI card and remove the AGP card.  Simple!

Thanks for your reply!!
I'll try it when I get the card these days.
I'm so excited!!

Regards,
Charly
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: ps47 on 01 July 2005, 11:03:07
@Chips:
does the card really works in SLI mode with the DVI bios? can you use 4x FSAA?
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: Chips on 01 July 2005, 13:47:15
Yes 4xFSAA works fine.

Strange though - it doesnt seem to drop the framerate when I turn it on, but it looks very nice.  Sorry, I'm new to this whole Voodoo 5 thing - Just got it going the other day!

So are you suggesting that it's only in single chip mode or something??

Driver reports 64Mb of RAM, and it gives me the following options:

(http://home.iprimus.com.au/simon_chipperfield/3dfx/mac.jpg)
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: ps47 on 01 July 2005, 16:18:20
I know that some people had problems with driver functionality when using the DVI BIOS.its good to know everything is working fine for you..
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: Chips on 02 July 2005, 06:54:34
Really?

What sort of problems?  Do you have a thread to point me to?[?]
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: trigger on 05 July 2005, 11:47:09
Hi there!

I recently purchased two Voodoo5 5500's (PCI for MACINTOSH).

One was already PC flashed with the 1.18 bios enabling DVI! ....see picky

(http://web.aanet.com.au/homeof/pc-physician/V5PCIDVI.JPG)

The other one, I had to exorcise myself! :D

Had trouble flashing the MAC card with the BIOS located @ 3dfxzone.it

Tried another one from http://welcome.to/3dfxBios
1.18 (Digital Output Enabled) under the heading Voodoo5 5500 Pci

It succesfully worked but the video BIOS bootup screen reported it as a Voodoo4 4000 or 4500.
(can't exactly remember which one)

Phreaked out and ended up dumping the working one I had, then flashed that one up! Both work great!
The DVI on both cards are SWEET!:)

Think about it, GLIDE™ on DVI - no loss of picture quality through DAC. I highly recommend them.

P.S. You can grab my verified working BIOS file from here! (flash tools included)
http://web.aanet.com.au/homeof/pc-physician/V5-5500MAC-PCbios.zip

Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: r21vo on 05 July 2005, 13:04:09
well, if you read news section in Stanto's page you'll find this:
QuoteLooking through the 1.18 bios's for the Voodoo 5 5500, I've discovered, that for some reason in the bios with Digital Output enabled, it has the tag: "Voodoo4 4000 Supported BIOS - Version 1.18" this may explain why some people have been stating that their Voodoo 5 5500 is now claiming that it's a Voodoo 4. The only thing I can recommend is that you use the AGP 1.18 bios, as the only difference really is an ID tag in the bios anyway, from what I know of them. Hope that clears it up.

Anyways, thanks for your BIOS file :)
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: trigger on 05 July 2005, 13:37:37
Thanks for that r21vo

Noticed too that alot of bios files have a .ROM file extention, while my biosdump and a few other one's out there are .BIN

renaming between the two formats wouldn't affect things would it? Maybe the Flash utility only likes .ROM files?
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: Chips on 05 July 2005, 13:53:45
Nah, it doesn't care.:)
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: r21vo on 05 July 2005, 15:02:17
i did a little research on your submitted bios file, it's much different from the one on Stanto's page, also yours is dated 06/25 while the other is 06/13.
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: ps47 on 23 July 2005, 14:59:10
any chance someone could send me trigger's verified BIOS? the original link is down..
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: Nightbird on 23 July 2005, 16:59:49
Done.
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: ps47 on 23 July 2005, 17:33:25
hmmm,doesnt seem to appear in any of my mailboxes..please try again with ps47.3dfx"at"gmail.com ,thank you..
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: Nightbird on 23 July 2005, 17:36:56
ok, i try again with this email adress
(before, v...ps....[at]pobox.sk)
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: ps47 on 23 July 2005, 18:53:05
..well thats the reason,the pobox mail is not very useful for mails with attachements[xx(]

thanks again;)
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: Nightbird on 23 July 2005, 18:55:13
and now the problem is p....3...@ gmail.com doesn't work also ...
(Échec; 5.3.4 (le message est trop volumineux pour le système)
ATM à distance gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com : erreur du réseau)

i can use what email ? :D

Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: ps47 on 23 July 2005, 19:01:25
whoops,looks like the file has just arrived on the pobox mail after all.so no need to send it again,I got it now.thanks;)
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: trigger on 26 July 2005, 13:25:32
Sorry about the bad links.

Had a re-shuffle of my webspace and the link had to go.

It's a real shame you can't edit your post here.

Anyway, you can grab my verified working BIOS file from here! (flash tools included)

http://web.aanet.com.au/homeof/pc-physician/V5-5500MAC-PCbios.zip
(http://web.aanet.com.au/homeof/pc-physician/V5PCIDVI.JPG)
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: Nightbird on 26 July 2005, 20:03:35
QuoteIt's a real shame you can't edit your post here.
Hem, you can edit your post here, on this board
You need only to click on the little icon "Edit Reply"
edit (http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/icon_edit_topic.gif)
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: trigger on 27 July 2005, 05:50:03
Cool - Tanks :D

You can find the bios file at http://welcome.to/3dfxBios too.;)

Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: White Voodoo Master on 15 August 2005, 23:54:36
Hi all! I have 2 Voodoo 5 5500 PCI. One  PC, and one for MAC. So, i flashed BIOS for MAC version. Syastem boots up, drivers has succesfuly installed, Direct 3D works fine, glise works fine, but in OpenGL system hangs up.... :-( When i installing V5 for PC all is fine and no system hang up...
What is it? Please, help!
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: Chips on 01 September 2005, 09:06:09
Check your MAC card's BIOS version - this topic seems to indicate that there are a few different versions around!

I personally use the one that rol0 sent me which is version 1.18 (I think thats the same one Trigger is using too).

p.s.  My MAC PCI card works fine with openGL using the WinXP AmigaMerlin v3.1 R11 driver.
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: trigger on 01 September 2005, 14:56:40

Yeah....... I wasn't kidding when I said "Exorcise"!
That's some pretty Spooky Crap going on right there! [:0]

All I can suggest is trying different MAC bios files until OpenGL works. Ask around for fully working (Glide/DirectX/OpenGL) MAC bios dumps.

Also try different drivers and make sure each set of drivers you use are clean from previous ones. I use Norton Ghost on my PC for this - maybe MAC users have something similar. I find it's the best "and most harsh" way of being dead certain when eliminating possible causes. I always work from fresh installs when troubleshooting serious problems.

I hope it's just a driver or BIOS issue! All the best!
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: Chips on 02 September 2005, 07:40:13
Also, have you tried using an OpenGL driver like Mesa 6.1?
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: myststix on 13 September 2005, 11:12:40
I have an old G3-300Mhz ( if successfull I will upgrade to 1.1GHZ G4) that I want to upgrade to a low-end video station. It's got 756MB of memory and currently an 80GB IDE hard drive, it will also support a SCSI drive (I was thinking an 80GB LVD with 50pin SCSI adapter)

Anyways, if I find a PC Voodoo 5500, how do I flash it to Mac BIOS? It's the best card available for PCI Mac, and it would make the unit even a decent gaming system (with the 1.1GHz G4)
Title: Can I use a Voodoo MAC 5500 on PC??
Post by: ps47 on 13 September 2005, 14:25:24
first,you will need a voodoo5 MAC (a standard voodoo5 pci cannot be flashed to mac).and v5 mac usually comes with the original mac BIOS.if the card has been flashed with pc BIOS already,you should be able to flash it back,but I'm not sure if you can do it on pc.and dont forget there are no drivers for osx..