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Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 19 January 2006, 21:45:08
Hello greeting to all... First post :)

I Had an old Banshee card (still have it... and love it) a long time ago but then i wasn't aware of what the name 3Dfx ment. Anyhow i grown up, and about 3 months ago i found a VooDoo 2 of Diamond multimedia on a friends box of old hardware. He gave it to me and i was and still am thanking him for giving her to me. Yesterday another friend of mine found me another 3D monster II, but this one instead of the first (8mb) this one is 12mb. Will SLi work on these two? Ah and also, how much heat do they raise? Cause i might think of a "slight" overclocking ;):)

Sorry for my english... (i speak england very best :P)

10x :)
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: ps47 on 19 January 2006, 22:16:51
I dont think it will work,but you can always try.
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 19 January 2006, 23:58:00
I am afraid of the cards... If it won't work will it harm them ? :(
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: Nightbird on 20 January 2006, 23:36:14
That can work (but never tried) but i think that you will have only 4 megs of display memory and 4 megs of texture memory. The other extra 4 megs of texture memory on the 12 meg card will not used.
In short, the result would be as if you were using 2 8-meg cards in sli.

Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: Nightbird on 20 January 2006, 23:45:59
QuoteOriginally posted by aquasonic

I am afraid of the cards... If it won't work will it harm them ? :(
No,
If that doesn' work, the sli will not be detected or perhaps you will get black screen but you can't harm the cards.
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 21 January 2006, 23:02:17
Ah nice :) Tnx for the replies :) Also do i need the internal cable or i can use the external VGA->VGA cable?
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: Nightbird on 21 January 2006, 23:59:49
You will need :
- the standard monitor cable between the (first) Voodoo2 and your monitor
- the vga pass-through cable between your primary card and the first voodoo 2
- the sli cable between your 2 Voodoo2's

:) Look here for the setup :
http://www.shifter.sk/helppage/default_fix.htm#SLI

and here :
https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/3dfx/voodoo2/releasenotes/fv2_4.0_xp_ge.htm
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 22 January 2006, 11:17:05
merci beaucoup mon ami :) (hope i wrote it well... i know only a few French :))
Today i will receive the second card and i hope everything will be fine :)
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: in3d on 22 January 2006, 13:31:36
For a girl you should write "amie" not "ami".;)
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 22 January 2006, 17:47:09
oh thought she was a boy... sorry :)
)
Well it works (i made SLi cable myself) but i get the screen... artifacted (only on games)... Is it because of the different memory size?
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 22 January 2006, 17:51:23
basicly... on test drive 4 it crashes when it tryies to load the 3Dfx logo, on midtown madness shows the choosen car full of artifacts and then it crashes when it loads :(
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: Nightbird on 22 January 2006, 18:39:28
Perhaps a stupid question :
but if you try your Voodoo2's separately, do they work ?

Try also to put the output to the monitor from the 8 meg card (and not from the 12 meg card)

Don't use a sli cable too long

And what do you mean "the screen... artifacted" ?
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 22 January 2006, 18:53:08
i ment it had artifacts. To tell u the truth i haven't checked them seperatly... only the 8mb card. I had already the 8mb as primary but now i put the 12mb to see how things go...

Also when i select on the drivers (fastVooDoo2) to disable sli midtown madness gives me the option to play on 1024x768 (even though it crashes), but on 800x600 i can put all settings to hi and the game won't loose frames at all! with only the 8mb it was terrible with everything to high. BUT it have
blueish colours...
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 22 January 2006, 20:48:28
Finaly the 12mb proven to be dead, because i worked it alone and had the same symptoms. I changed slot and everything but didn't help. At least i made a working SLi cable :)
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: Nightbird on 22 January 2006, 21:44:22
Ehm, now you have a sli cable (:)) but you need an other V2 (8 meg) or the best 2 V2 (12 meg) (because of the extra 4 megs of texture memory)
Easy in Greece to find a Voodoo2 ?

(i can't answer in your native langage : i don't speak it but your french words are perfect  :D )
i found "thanks" in greek but the board doesn't write correctly the words in greek [:p] )
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: agrelaphon on 23 January 2006, 11:58:44
QuoteEasy in Greece to find a Voodoo2 ?
Hmm... I'm afraid not; but if you're lucky you can find one for 15E or so
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 23 January 2006, 14:46:03
QuoteOriginally posted by Nightbird

Ehm, now you have a sli cable (:)) but you need an other V2 (8 meg) or the best 2 V2 (12 meg) (because of the extra 4 megs of texture memory)
Easy in Greece to find a Voodoo2 ?

(i can't answer in your native langage : i don't speak it but your french words are perfect  :D )
i found "thanks" in greek but the board doesn't write correctly the words in greek [:p] )


:) thanks :)

As for the voodoo... YEAP somebody up there loves me :)the guy who brought me the faulty card found me another one voodoo2... But it is from creative and 16mb never used with all it's package etc (pci sli e.t.c)... but i guess it won't work huh?
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: Nightbird on 23 January 2006, 21:19:36
A Diamond 8 meg + a Creative Labs 12 meg ?
you like the difficulty [:p]
No chance for an other Creative Labs 12 meg ?
easier :D

edit : if you try, try also this package
https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/news/3dfx/koolsmoky_v2_driver_test_kit
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 24 January 2006, 17:21:28
QuoteOriginally posted by Nightbird

A Diamond 8 meg + a Creative Labs 12 meg ?
you like the difficulty [:p]
No chance for an other Creative Labs 12 meg ?
easier :D

edit : if you try, try also this package
https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/news/3dfx/koolsmoky_v2_driver_test_kit

i don't know why, but i love pcs earlier 2000. :). Not sure, but the guy told me it is 16mb (did v2 had that ammount of memory?). I will either choose betwin this card or a dual socket 7 motherboard.

Oh, i just saw the 12mb v2 (the faulty one). Looks like it has some kind of thermal paste on 3dfx chips. It is clean, but some of it has been left on it... Could the card be overclocked and produce wrong graphics because of overheating? [?]
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: Nightbird on 24 January 2006, 20:24:06
QuoteNot sure, but the guy told me it is 16mb (did v2 had that ammount of memory?). I will either choose betwin this card or a dual socket 7 motherboard.
a V2 -> 8 or 12 meg  ;)

QuoteCould the card be overclocked and produce wrong graphics because of overheating?
yes   [:(]
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 26 January 2006, 12:01:02
QuoteOriginally posted by Nightbird

QuoteNot sure, but the guy told me it is 16mb (did v2 had that ammount of memory?). I will either choose betwin this card or a dual socket 7 motherboard.
a V2 -> 8 or 12 meg  ;)

QuoteCould the card be overclocked and produce wrong graphics because of overheating?
yes   [:(]

well in the second case then, can i underclock it to it's normal clocks... or it has damaged the hardware?

Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: skinnie on 27 January 2006, 22:03:20
today,I tried a STb blackmagic 12m and a creative 8mb in sli..with the 12mb voodoo 1st..I paly nfs porsche and all is normal except blue squares underneath the cars and some things more..but it rans good..
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: skinnie on 27 January 2006, 22:52:25
I tried now changing the position of the boards and all works fine..
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: Nightbird on 28 January 2006, 17:33:32
QuoteOriginally posted by skinnie

I tried now changing the position of the boards and all works fine..
changing "how" ?
in an other slot pci ?
or
the V2 8 meg is now the card with the output to the monitor ?

thks :)
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: skinnie on 28 January 2006, 21:25:23
now the 8mb card is first..and connected to the 2d card with the cable..but I think the wrong textures was due to the non restarting of the system after taking of the tick from "disable SLi detection"
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: Nightbird on 07 February 2006, 14:22:25
And now we would need a Creative Labs and a Diamond together.
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 18 February 2006, 13:11:29
we will see today :)! I am getting the creative card :)
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 18 February 2006, 18:08:51
It works smoothly :)! Midtown Madness II will work under 1024x768 with  fairly enough framerate. The only problem now is that i work with a Trident ISA vga (640x480@256 colours) and my eyes KILL me (i left the pc about 50' ago and i still feel dizzy). I must remove the TV card [:(]! But i don't care that much right now... I HAVE SLIIIIIII :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: Nightbird on 20 February 2006, 00:32:56
@ aquasonic
Congratulations  :D
So skinnie with a STb Blackmagic 12m + a Creative 8mb in sli and now you with a Diamond 8 meg + a Creative Labs 12 meg.

We need to know if you did something "special", your drivers ...

edit :
QuoteThe only problem now is that i work with a Trident ISA vga
no possible to find a better 2D card ? you removed your S3 Trio ?
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 21 February 2006, 22:08:41
Thank you! :D Well i am not quite sure if it has worked... I used fast voodoo 4.6 as is. Some games run some not. For example Test Drive 4 runs great and support 1024x768 as mm2, but need for speed 4 crashes on startup when i select 3dfx, but runs at 1024x768 on D3D... How this come?
Title: v2 on sli without same memory size?
Post by: aquasonic on 22 February 2006, 14:33:48
NEWS :)

I changed to Koolsmoky drivers and added to registry the SSTV2_MISMATCHED_SLI = 1 string and TADA! Full Glide acceleration! 1024x768@85hz and nfs4 rockz! :)