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3dfx Hardware & Software => Voodoo4/5 Setup and tweaking => Topic started by: Eclipse on 07 August 2004, 15:00:25

Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: Eclipse on 07 August 2004, 15:00:25
hiho,
I bought myself a voodoo 5 5500 lately and am now trying to set her up properly.
I managed to set up the drivers (correctly, imho) and was starting to test glide/direct3d. on testing the card displays a fuzzy blurr of colors (looks like the distorted desktopscreen) and my system freezes.
I limited the rendering to single chip rendering for d3d and d3d works fine now (althou i'm not happy limiting my card). glide still causes the distorted screen and locks my system..:(
anyone encountered a similar problem, or can give me a hint what is wrong with my voodoo/system/setup?

my systems specs:
duron 800 @ win98SE
Voodoo 5 5500 Agp with 1.18 bios,
Amigamerlin 2.5 drivers
Directx 9.0c

i tested compability for d3d with dxdiag and glide with the diablo2 d2vidtst.

thx in advance...

E.
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: Nightbird on 07 August 2004, 15:32:46
What's your power supply ?

Is your card overclocked ?
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: Eclipse on 07 August 2004, 16:16:48
300W noname
and no the card is not overclocked.
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: Kyon_CoraeL on 08 August 2004, 23:31:34
hmmm have u tried the amigamerlin 2.9 it should be more stable.
or have u tried Raziel's Evolution I hear great things from those drivers.
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: Eclipse on 10 August 2004, 09:50:04
i did. same problem with all drivers i tested (these were the most common, i think).
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: Glide on 10 August 2004, 16:44:07
Eclipse, welcome to this board.

Please replace VSA-100 coolers with newer: in this step, use Voodoo5 only as external device in our system.

Let us know if problem remains.


Bye bye
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: Eclipse on 13 August 2004, 11:58:31
ok, i replaced the fans on the coolers with some decent papst i borrowed, found an old AT power supply and ran the voodoo on her own 250W power supply and still she freezes on glide or d3d.
btw, i don't think it's a heat problem, for the card runs absolutely stable in non-hardware accel. mode and the freeze is on switching to the accellerated mode (distorted picture + freeze).
is it possible, that some hardware damage is the cause?
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: bloodworm on 16 August 2004, 22:12:34
check your bios for a couple of things.  your AGP aperture should be set to 64Mb because lower or higher settings on SOME motherboards can cause problems with the agp port itself (MB chipset) and also change the timing on the port (1x/2x/4x).  make sure PnP OS is OFF in the bios, this lets the MB do the IRQ shuffle.  The only other thing I can think of is that your DX9.0c is not quite installed right.  try reinstalling and also try some other drivers too.  try running things with VSYNC ON too.....  also make sure you have the latest and greatest INF for your MB chipset (for the AGP port stuff) and NO OVERCLOCKING.  good luck.  by the way, what chipset/MB ARE you running?
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: Eclipse on 18 August 2004, 10:25:17
that sweety is running on a abit kt7a. thought of latest chipset drivers too. i will restart working with her soon, i think. atm i lack the time and the nerves (of steel ;)).
the bios settings are ok. did check them before even putting her on my mb.

<edit>
weird thing to notice: with the xp default drivers the card can do 3d3 without any problems. I don't know if they use single chip rendering by default; just wondered.....</edit>
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: bloodworm on 18 August 2004, 21:34:59
Are you running 98SE or XP?  your first post states 98se? and your last post states XP?  You will not be able to load drivers into XP correctly without disabling XP's dll "saver" routines.  there are a couple of ways and they usually invole reg-editing. there are posts all over this board on this subject. do a search for them...  XP will exibit exactly what you are seeing if the drivers are not installed correctly.
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: Eclipse on 19 August 2004, 08:52:26
i know how to install the drivers on xp. i tried to set the voodoo up on my win98se partition first. then tried on xp to have some reference, if maybe the os is cause of the problem.
.. obviously it's not the os..:/
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: Kyon_CoraeL on 19 August 2004, 09:24:42
What bios is your video card using?

Did you try flashing it?
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: bloodworm on 19 August 2004, 22:26:43
found this on the abit website:

Why do I get a shaking or vibrating display with ABIT Siluro MX400 and KT7A mainboard? Or the 3D gaming failed sometimes?  

 
Solution

If users experience a display or 3D gaming problem with KT7A series mainboard and Siluro MX400 family graphic card, please manually change the "AGP driving Control" to FF, EF, FE or EE.
Advanced Chipset Features -> AGP Driving Control -- Auto -- Manual -- FF -- Save and Exit Setup.

Updated: 01-30-2002

also check your AGP settings in the MB bios for voltage and speed....

Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: bloodworm on 19 August 2004, 22:30:30
the latest MB BIOS for your abit board is "A9".  it looks like it fixes an AGP problem with an Nvidia card....  may need it here too.
Title: strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d
Post by: Eclipse on 20 August 2004, 09:59:17
thx for the research bloody, i'll focus on my mb for now and try to get the latest/best biosupdate/settings for the voodoo.
someone else got my mb and faced similar problems?

Kyon_CoraeL, bios is 1.18 as stated above, and yes it's an updated one.