Currently my v5 6000 card is on it's way to Hank and he'll take a look at it (HiNT Bridge blown - maybe more...).
Meanwhile i would like to ask which mainboards are optimal for a v5 6000. I would like to use an Intel Chipset, Slot-1 or Socket370. Hank told me, that the PCI Bus behind the HiNT HB1-SE66 won't tolerate too much Overclocking, so i cannot use my i440BX Boards (2/3 AGP multiplier) in combination with Tualatin P-III S Processors... (AK4 - AG1 mod to run on older GTL+ Chipsets with 1.5VTT).
I don't really want to use i815EP, so i'd like to try i820 Camino (pure Rambus - no MTH, 1/2 AGP multiplier). Does anybody here have any experiences with Intel based Mainboards + v5 6000 or v5 6000 AGP OC?
Thanks in advance.
So best choice are still i820 with Rambus memory because you can't setup 3dfx card like V5 6000 in an Intel P4 system due a too low AGP voltage against 3.3V voltage request by Voodoo. If you want use V5 6000 with P4 cpu must plane only a motherboard with SiS or VIA chipset.
No, i don't want to use it in conjunction with a P4 processor. Dunno why, i just don't like the combination P4 + Voodoo4/5 at all. So I ordered an Asus P3C-E i820 Board via ebay (19 Euros! rofl..) plus one 256MB Samsung RIMM. I already possess a P3C-E BIOS with Tualatin Microcodes and i have modified a 1.26GHz P-III S processor to run on GTL+ environments. A friend of mine tried that with a 1.13GHz P-III S and P3C-E + v5 5500, works fine and very stable.
Should be a nice system. Exactly what i would like for my 6000! =) I hope that there are no compatibility problems.
Asus P3C-E @ 133 - 160MHz FSB (AGP: 66 - 80MHz)
Pentium-III "Server" @ 1.26 - 1.52GHz
256MB Samsung PC800/16-45 RAMBUS w. ECC @ 400 - 480MHz DRSL
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP / HiNT 3700 Revision @ 166MHz
(http://www.hardoverclock.de/seticount/userstats.php?tcolor=220,255,230&bcolor=220,255,230&email=0)
hehehe the soyo dragon lite hey i read the reciews and it so fast its dangours hehe
Well, i like it the more "exotic" way and the more "Intel" Way. ;)
Tualatin P-III S @ i820 System + v5 6000 is now up and running! Had to do some workaround to compensate for the P3C-E's incompatibility with HB1-SE66, but now everything seems to work absolutely smooth.
There are still problems with UT2003, but i hope i can fix that soon. OS is now Win98SE, Drivers are Amigamerlin 2.9! Some things do not work very well in Win2000 unfortunately... I'll experiment a bit later, System is configured for Win98SE / Win2000 Dual-Boot.
Elvis posted a few pics over at x3dfx of his system. He uses a Soyo Dragon KT 333, or something like that. I dunno, mybe Elvis can verify this.;)
| AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.33GHz | Epox 8RDA+ nForce 2 | 256mb DDR PC2100 | Sapphire ATI Radeon 9500np 128 With 9700 Red PCB(potential hack) | Sound Blaster Live! X-Gamer 5.1 | 3dfx VoodooTV 200 PCI | Western Digital 40Gib 7200RPM | Pioneer 106s DVD | LG 52x24x52 CDRW | Cambridge Soundworks/Creative Labs Desktop Theater 5.1 DTT3500 Digital Speakers | Creative IR Remote | WindowsXP Professional SP1 |
yes the dragon lite blew up hank had it doing 1024x769 at 180 fps with quake 3 testing
so i purchased a msi KT3 Ultra 2-R (ms-6380e)
and im sure its heaps faster for the rams speeds thus the great 8x fssa speeds im been getting
YES THIS IS THE BEST MOTHERBOARD i never seen
Regards
ELviSALive
MSI kt3 ultra 2
bye
Msi kt3 ultra2 barton 2500+@3200+ voodoo5 6000 1gb ddr 400
I am using it in my system too, and I gotta say it is very stable for me.
Anyone running one of these?
http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7vta3_6.html
I'm not looking to overclock, just want a stable new board.
Thought I would add a bit on- I'm looking for the fastest supported AMD single CPU board for running a AGP 5500 & 6000 that can still be purchased new for a dual boot (98SE & 2000 Pro) machine.
And I'm not looking to overclock, so overclocking features are a non-issue.
=)
Yes, I'm looking at all the boards now, lots of confusing info though.
Quotethe fastest supported AMD single CPU board for running a AGP 5500 & 6000
Easy, the fastest : the Barton 3000+ but you need probably a mobo in its last revision or a very recent mobo (but always with a support for Agp 2x - 3.3 v) with a updated bios.
Mine : Asus A7V333 Revision 2.0 and Albatron KX400+ Pro
2 mobos chipset KT333 - the last chipset Via with a support for Agp 3.3v - and running with a Barton 3000+.
My others mobos don't support the Barton or/and Fsb 2*166.
edit : only the Albatron supports the V5 5500 and 6000
Chaintech CT-7VJL (KT333) - works fine w/ Barton 2600+ and 6K
QuoteOriginally posted by cosworth6k
MSI kt3 ultra 2
Been looking for these- Any "Ultra 2" will do or does it have to be a certain board revision+?
Even Ultra "1" works flawless ;)
QuoteOriginally posted by omega_supreme
Even Ultra "1" works flawless ;)
I'm looking to run the 3000+
ASUS A7V333-R is the best KT333 board around in my point of view ;) every Voodoo AGP card runs fine in it, so a Voodoo5 6000 should do fine also. I never had lock-ups with it either, ASUS is well known because of rock stabillity and speed. for SMP machines I recommend the ASUS A7M266-D with a nice Antec True Power 550 EPS12V PSU [:o)]
My voodoo6k don't boot with asusa7v333 [:I]
Strike that one off the list then.
I still think the MSI KT3 Ultra2 is your best bet. Ultra1 needs a bios update for the XP3000, I dont know about the Ultra2 (I dont have it).
QuoteOriginally posted by cosworth6k
MSI kt3 ultra 2
Best board revison to buy? I found one but need more info!
Best revision wouldn't really mind i think. An Ultra 2 will always be a revision 2. Anyway, you'll be fine i think, no matter what :)
Ask to Amigamerlin for revision.
I haven't msi now
QuoteOriginally posted by Rampage
Best revision wouldn't really mind i think. An Ultra 2 will always be a revision 2. Anyway, you'll be fine i think, no matter what :)
I can't assume- If it was for a 5500 AGP they are common if one burns up, not so with V6000.
You should ask either Amiga or mikepedo, if im am not mistaking they both use the MSI KT3Ultra 2. I actually think Rampage is correct. V5 6000 doesnt really care, it just needs an suited KT3 mainboard and all the MSI will do fine
:)
For what it is worth-
I picked up an Epox 8K3A+ as a spare board and it's a screamer! Currently it's running an 1800+ but I had a chance to throw a Barton 3000+ with 333 mhz bus for a few hours and it worked perfect. The only thing I had to do was set the bus speed in the bios from 133 to 166.
AGP mode is adjustable in the bios (1/2/4x) and when running in 1/2x mode the AGP is the correct 3.3 volts.
My V5-6000 ran looping Quake3 demos for hours with zero problems. 1024 x 768, 16 bit color, 8 x AA with Win98SE, last non-beta 3dfx VSA drivers and directx 9b.
(https://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/../public/uploaded/gdonovan/20041223151930_barton.jpg)
@gdonovan,
Great to hear you found yourself a quality motherboard for the 6000 [8D]
What were you averaging for fps with that set-up (8X AA) ?, just my opinion but you might want to try lowering your AA down to 4X and switch to 32 bit color @ 1152 X 864 or 1280 X 1024.
My favourite 2 set-ups for quake 3 arena & Team arena on my 5500 are:
1) 1024 X 768, 32bit color, 2X FSAA and game settings at highest.
2) 1152 X 864, 32 bit color, no FSAA and game settings at highest.
QuoteOriginally posted by Voodoo5
@gdonovan,
Great to hear you found yourself a quality motherboard for the 6000 [8D]
What were you averaging for fps with that set-up (8X AA) ?, just my opinion but you might want to try lowering your AA down to 4X and switch to 32 bit color @ 1152 X 864 or 1280 X 1024.
This board is just a test board, I have a MSI Ultra II in route from Germany.
I'm seeing as low as 22-24 and as high as 100 fps, it's being run at 8x AA to stress the card as much as possible during demo loops.
QuoteI had a chance to throw a Barton 3000+ with 333 mhz bus for a few hours and it worked perfect. The only thing I had to do was set the bus speed in the bios from 133 to 166
This mobo supports the XP Thoroughbred FSB 266 and 333 but according Epox not the Barton (or officially).
Is the Barton 3000+ correctly recognized when the mobo boots and what bios is used ?
Thks
QuoteOriginally posted by Nightbird
This mobo supports the XP Thoroughbred FSB 266 and 333 but according Epox not the Barton (or officially).
Is the Barton 3000+ correctly recognized when the mobo boots and what bios is used ?
Thks
When the bus speed is manually set from 133 to 166 the computer identifies the CPU as 3000+ on bootup, I can't remember if it stated Barton or not because I had to ship the CPU out (I only had it for a few hours)
I have my own Barton in route and will let you know when it comes in, it ran fine though.
According an Epox Tech., the 8K3A(+) would support the Barton with 15/11/02 or later BIOS using PCB revision 1.2.
I flashed the board to the last available bios (still had to manually set bus speed to 166 though) and the board doesn't seem to have a revision number visible.
The part number on the last ISA slot does have 105 at the end, perhaps it's a 1.05 board.
Testing between an 1800+ and the Barton 3000+ does indeed show a nice speed increase so it is working and dead stable too.