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Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: TM30 on 18 October 2004, 19:50:16
Hi, i already asked in two other forums... it has to be a voodoo 2 with only one TMU.... one guy said, that its a rare budged voodoo 2 for asia?
and some other said that it could be a prototype, because of the yellow connectors and pins on the board...

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/a.jpg)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/b.jpg)
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: ArchAngelCD on 19 October 2004, 00:25:22
Are there any numbers on the back?
Is there a company ID on the card?
What numbers are on the 3rd chip on the card?
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: dborca on 19 October 2004, 08:50:47
yes indeed! seems a single-TMU Voodoo2.

you see, the lower chip is labeled CK which stands for Chuck - the FB chip. the upper chip is labeled BE which stands for Bruce - the TM chip.

these notations are specific to Voodoo2... funny thing, there was a movie where Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris fight in the end.
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: TM30 on 19 October 2004, 08:55:42
QuoteOriginally posted by dborca

yes indeed! seems a single-TMU Voodoo2.

you see, the lower chip is labeled CK which stands for Chuck - the FB chip. the upper chip is labeled BE which stands for Bruce - the TM chip.

these notations are specific to Voodoo2... funny thing, there was a movie where Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris fight in the end.

did you see something like this before? are there any infos on a "budget voodoo2"

@ArchAngelCD

The card is shipping to me... so when i get it i can say what ID and so on...

Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: dborca on 19 October 2004, 09:08:59
QuoteOriginally posted by TM30

did you see something like this before? are there any infos on a "budget voodoo2"
i am not aware of any...
go here, for starters: http://www.idhw.com/textual/chip/3dfx/chippicture.html
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: ArchAngelCD on 19 October 2004, 09:40:26
No, I have never seen a card like the one you have.
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: TM30 on 19 October 2004, 09:48:19
than it looks like a prototype... cause the 500-0012-31 and 500-0011-01 is not listed on the page, you've given the link above...

edit: aah when i compare the numbers, my card is between a voodoo 2 and a banshee... (V2 has -0009- and -0010- and a banshee has -0013-
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: TM30 on 19 October 2004, 23:18:50
noone further opinons, suggestions :D[?]
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: PanoramixDruida on 20 October 2004, 06:49:13
Quotego here, for starters: http://www.idhw.com/textual/chip/3dfx/chippicture.html


Voodoo 500? What kind of chipset is that?
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: NitroX infinity on 20 October 2004, 07:18:49
http://www.idhw.com/textual/chip/3dfx/chipname.html

Voodoo 500 is the Avenger chip on the Velocity's and Voodoo 3's.
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: TM30 on 20 October 2004, 11:10:51
erm... yeah but that doesnt help me [}:)]

does anyone has contact with ex 3dfx stuff? its clearly impossible that there are no documents, no webpages or something else of my card..

or i own a prototype which only one was built [8D]
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: TM30 on 26 October 2004, 13:26:07
anyone another idea? or some contacts to ex 3dfx staff?
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: perer on 26 October 2004, 13:59:13
You own a prototype look at the date of the chip.
Even creative and Diamond didn't had chips at that date.
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: TM30 on 26 October 2004, 20:12:27
but when its a prototype why this card has the "CE" approval...

but on the other hand... week 6 in 1998 is very early for a voodoo 2...

edit: look at http://www.thedodgegarage.com/3dfx/prototypes.htm and scroll down... first retail boards shipped on February 20th 1998... (=week 7)
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: obobskivich on 28 October 2004, 02:38:04
uh...could it be a Voodoo1?
i saw a pic of one of em, the chips are stacked like that, and most Voodoo2's have 3 3dfx tagged chips
my guess is a Voodoo1, but it might be a concept Voodoo2
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: TM30 on 28 October 2004, 09:00:00
no, voodoo 1 is nearly impossible, because of the date and name of the chips (BE & CK) and that 100Mhz RAM. My guess, its a protoype of a low cost voodoo2... in fact, when it has only one TMU, it has the performance of a Voodoo Banshee! So perhaps 3dfx designed it as a very early Banshee (without 2D Part...)

But i think i can tell you what it's really is when i get it [:o)] I'm awaiting the package... it comes from USA to Germany, so i think 2 weeks [8)]
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: gdonovan on 28 October 2004, 15:41:33
QuoteOriginally posted by perer

You own a prototype look at the date of the chip.
Even creative and Diamond didn't had chips at that date.

ahem.

Be aware that chips just don't appear by magic the week a card is sold- It's not uncommon for the chips to pre-date the card by several weeks since a stockpile of units has to be built up before shipping.

An example the other direction is I have several 1997 Obsidian boards with Voodoo Graphics chips dated 2496.

TM30's card looks to be either a true prototype or considering the markings a sample sent out to a card maker for evaluation (reference board as part of a development kit)
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: TM30 on 29 October 2004, 21:28:46
cards were shipped yesterday... i can't await it [}:)]
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: TM30 on 02 November 2004, 18:32:53
i got it today!!!

-90Mhz speed (Ram is 100Mhz labeled)
-only one TMU (instead of 2)
-only 4MB RAM (2MB Frame Buffer Memory + 2MB Texture Memory)
-Windows recognizes it as a normal voodoo 2
-3DMark2001 runs only in 640x480, exactly 1000 Points :)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/1.jpg)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/2.jpg)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/3.jpg)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/4.jpg)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/10.jpg)  

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/5.jpg)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/6.jpg)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/7.jpg)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/8.jpg)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/9.jpg)
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: Obi-Wan Kenobi on 03 November 2004, 13:06:32
QuoteOriginally posted by TM30

i got it today!!!

-90Mhz speed (Ram is 100Mhz labeled)
-only one TMU (instead of 2)
-only 4MB RAM (2MB Frame Buffer Memory + 2MB Texture Memory)
-Windows recognizes it as a normal voodoo 2
-3DMark2001 runs only in 640x480, exactly 1000 Points :)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/1.jpg)

That's one small Voodoo2, the smallest in size and smallest amount of ram I've ever seen, Congrats! TM30  ;)
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: edmundoab on 05 November 2004, 02:19:10
QuoteOriginally posted by Obi-Wan Kenobi

QuoteOriginally posted by TM30

i got it today!!!

-90Mhz speed (Ram is 100Mhz labeled)
-only one TMU (instead of 2)
-only 4MB RAM (2MB Frame Buffer Memory + 2MB Texture Memory)
-Windows recognizes it as a normal voodoo 2
-3DMark2001 runs only in 640x480, exactly 1000 Points :)

(http://vbs1.xn--mareilehppner-pmb.de/pics/voodoo2_prototyp/1.jpg)

That's one small Voodoo2, the smallest in size and smallest amount of ram I've ever seen, Congrats! TM30  ;)


i think this is the same news he placed in the ezboard forums
Title: Whats this kind of Voodoo ?
Post by: TM30 on 05 November 2004, 17:23:48
yes indeed! i posted it in several 3dfx forums...