I would like your opinions on setting up my newly acquired toy....:D
What would be a nice motherboard/cpu setup (AMD only) for this thang??
Thx :)
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Duh, AMD Athlon64 3200+ offcourse.
You could have figured that out yourself since this is just a PCI version of the V5.
QuoteDuh, AMD Athlon64 3200+ offcourse.
You could have figured that out yourself since this is just a PCI version of the V5.
Rather than doing a swell job at making at total a$$ of yourself, why don't you take the time to read the post properly....[B)]
OUCH! and people say I'm harsh...
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Hmm, well, at the moment, considering the capabilities of the V5 (since 64-bit games aren't gonna be DX 7.0/OGL 1.1, I would probably say not to bother with 64-bit and just get a dual Athlon XP-MP 3200+ :D And an MSI Neo2 series board, I think they make a Dual-AXP Neo2.
On a more serious and budget-concious note...what is you budget anyways?
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To entertain you ;) And give the forums a little cash to operate, duh.
Hey amp_man,
I'm not really on any budget, so I'm open to all suggestions, but I don't think I'll really need/want to go for the dual cpu option.
Do you think it's better to go with the KT400A option, or jump to the KT600? As the revised version of the KT600 hasn't come out yet, I don't want to be stuck with something buggy, on the other hand, I'd like something overclocker friendly, thus the epox questions...:)
And phalanx it's not offcourse.... it's of course.;)
You will build a nice home for that Voodoo5 5500 with an AMD AthlonXP 2500+ Barton (or higher) and a Asus A7N8X-X Deluxe MB.(NForce2 Ultra 400) Don't forget to buy some Kingston PC3200 DDR RAM (2 sticks because this board supports dual channel DDR) See the board here http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-e-d/overview.htm
Have fun with your Voodoo5!!! :)
Thanx for that Arch, had a look on the website and it looks like a nice board. Will have a look at some comparisons, and hopefully purchase one this weekend. :)
If you want a mean 3dfx machine just go For a AMD Athlon64 FX 53 CPU combine that with 2x 512MB PC 3200 and an ASUS SK8N nForce3 Pro mobo or if you go Dual CPU go for a Dual Opteron 248 Setup with the TYAN Thunder K8W Mobo ;)
that are some heavy sytem setups for the AMD K8 series CPU configurations.
And yeah if the Athlon 64FX is to expensive, go and grab the Athlon64 3400+ and the ASUS SK8V Mobo ;)
And if you want to use a K7 system go for an AMD AthlonXP 3200+ & ASUS A7N8X2.0/A7N8X-E Deluxe [nForce2 ULTRA 400] or if you go Dual CPU for the K7 platform go for a Dual AMD AthlonMP 2800+ and combine that with an ASUS A7M266-D or a heavier TYAN Thunder K7X Pro :)
Whoaaa, lots of info there, thanx for all that Obi-wan. :D
Just a question though, it is worth/wise to go for the 64bit cpus yet? I'll still be running Win98se as most of the games work on that os, so will I be having any issues with that and the cpu? I'll definately be going for the 400mhz FSB barton cpu, but not too sure about the nforce chipset on the mb... any more help/info would be great!! :D
Well, if money's not a real consideration I would definitely go with one of the Athlon 64s, they have great support for 32 bit applications, unlike a certain other companies 64 bit processors, so windows 98 SE shouldn't be a problem for them. Plus, when games that support 64 bit processing start coming out, you'll actually be able to upgrade to a 64 bit OS and run them, with out having to run out and upgrade. And I really like my nforce2 board and wouldn't hesitate to reccomend nforce2 or nforce3 boards to any of my friends, but to everyone their own.
QuoteYou will build a nice home for that Voodoo5 5500 with an AMD AthlonXP 2500+ Barton (or higher) and a Asus A7N8X-X Deluxe MB.(NForce2 Ultra 400) Don't forget to buy some Kingston PC3200 DDR RAM (2 sticks because this board supports dual channel DDR) See the board here http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-e-d/overview.htm
Have fun with your Voodoo5!!!
Hey Arch,
After looking up the motherboard on a few sites, seems there isn't any real difference between the dual channel and single channel versions.
As this board doesn't have any onboard video, is it really worth shelling out the extra $$ for something that is only ~2% faster? I mean I won't be needing the onboard lan, nor do I really care too much for the onboard sound, as I recently purchased an audigy card....
What do you guys think of this??
:)
QuoteOriginally posted by InSomNiaN
QuoteYou will build a nice home for that Voodoo5 5500 with an AMD AthlonXP 2500+ Barton (or higher) and a Asus A7N8X-X Deluxe MB.(NForce2 Ultra 400) Don't forget to buy some Kingston PC3200 DDR RAM (2 sticks because this board supports dual channel DDR) See the board here http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7n8x-e-d/overview.htm
Have fun with your Voodoo5!!!
Hey Arch,
After looking up the motherboard on a few sites, seems there isn't any real difference between the dual channel and single channel versions.
As this board doesn't have any onboard video, is it really worth shelling out the extra $$ for something that is only ~2% faster? I mean I won't be needing the onboard lan, nor do I really care too much for the onboard sound, as I recently purchased an audigy card....
What do you guys think of this??
:)
G'day Howza Go'n? ;)
Yeah I used to live in Bunbury, Western Australia but that was 13 years ago.... But back to the topic :), I'd go for a Dual Opteron 246 or 248 if money isn't your problem. Those Opterons really can kick some brutal butt!!!
The 246 runs at 2000Mhz but it only uses PC-2700 ECC Reg. The 248 runs at 2200Mhz and it also has another advantage it uses PC-3200 instead of PC-2700, so your memory bandwith should increase a little especially when all memory banks are filled, you'll then go to Quad DDR Channel 128 Bit!!!!! Rather sick hey!
A good old friend of mine here in Holland Just bought a Dual AMD Opteron 246 Machine, with 4x 256 PC-2700 ECC Reg mem okay I did say that's not so many , I would of gone for 4 x 512MB or 4x 1GB for the ram to get the full use out of it. The thing is like so: the Mainboard used Dual DDR per CPU, so if you install 1x 1GB per CPU you won't get full potential out of your system, and yeah so 2x 256 per CPU was in my opinion a little too little.
The Mainboard he uses is from Tyan, it's name is: Tyan Thunder K8W, it's a really beasty one, with the newest BIOS update you can easly Install two 248's and PC-3200 ECC Reg Memory modules. This beasty board's size is 12" by 13" and refers to Extended ATX Format.
here is a Pic of that board:
(http://www.hpsindustrial.nl/HPS/showroom/images/s2885_K8W.gif)
(http://www.press2.de/tyan_bilder/tyan_S2885.jpg)
And yeah if this Mobo and it's setup is to expensive, like in my situation [:o)] I went for this Setup:
2x AMD AthlonMP 2200+ [ soon 2x AMD AthlonMP 2800+ {BIOS 1010 needed}!!![:I]]
ASUS A7M266-D AMD AM760MPX.
1x 1GB PC-2100 ECC Reg Twin-Moss
1x 350 Watt Enermax PSU
Why not 2x 1GB, because this system does not have Dual and Quad DDR.
Here is a Pic of my ASUS A7M266-D Mobo:
(http://www.tweakers.net/ext/i.dsp/1048000133.jpg)
(http://www.athlonoc.org/news/asus/images/A7M266-D-2D-640-480.jpg)
And yeah like I mentioned earlier, I will be upgrading to 2x AMD AthlonMP 2800+, why, because they are not so expensive anymore, they are now about 209 Euros per CPU so that's fine with me. The PSU will be replaced by an Enermax 550 Watt PSU, because the MP 2800's will use a little more power than my good old 2200's. Never had problems with SMP machines. I do alot of games that use SMP, like Return To Castle Wolfenstein, Quake3Arena and Doom3 later on. and the Doom3 Alpha Demo runs fine in SMP mode with FSAAx6 and AF x16 on my Dual MP 2200+ and ATi Radeon 9700 Pro at reso 1024x768x32 with an avaridge of 42 Frames Per Sec and without SMP I only get 28 Frames Per Sec, SMP rulezzz indeed.:D, but I think that the 2800+'s will do a little better.[:p]
So I hope That you will have a very great time with your new SMP beast :)
Slightly off-topic, is it just me, or is that V5 5500 PCI on a V5 AGP box?
You are right, that box is from the AGP version, the PCI box is violett...
QuoteOriginally posted by Rolo01
You are right, that box is from the AGP version, the PCI box is violett...
You're right Rolo01 this is the Voodoo5 5500 PCI box you meant:
Old 5500 PCI Box:
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004TBBZ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
New 5500 PCI Box:
(http://www.x-3dfx.com/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Art/vboxes/V5_5500_PCI_PC.jpg)
5500 PCI Card:
(http://info-web.co.jp/video/pictures/5500pci_001.jpg)
and this is the Voodoo5 5500 AGP one:
Old 5500 AGP Box:
(http://www.kickassgear.com/Reviews/images/FlameheadBox.jpg)
New 5500 AGP Box:
(http://www.x-3dfx.com/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Art/vboxes/V5_5500_AGP_PC.jpg)
5500 AGP Card:
(http://info-web.co.jp/video/pictures/5500agp_001.jpg)
and of course the MAC 5500 PCI with DVI [:p]:
Old MAC 5500 PCI With DVI Box:
(http://www.mujmac.cz/images/Vd5_01.jpg)
New MAC 5500 PCI With DVI Box:
(http://www.tweakers.net/ext/f/15585/full.jpg)
MAC 5500 PCI With DVI Card
(http://www.remus.dti.ne.jp/~rmina/pc/voodoo5/pic/voodoo5_01.jpg)
That should clear things up a little ;)
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. If you don't want to spend the extra money on the Dual channel board it's no big deal. Dual Channel DDR is not important with an AMD CPU like it is with Intel.
If you are looking to save money you can even go with a Asus board that has the VIA KT600 chipset. The Asus A7V600 board is just a little slower than the nForce 2 boards but IMO, more stable. Some of the goodies on this board are a 3Com Gigabit NIC, Serial ATA and SoundMAX 6 channel audio. Some people are reporting compatibility problems with nVidia's SoundStorm audio. I just bought a A7V600, a Barton 2500+ and a 512Mb stick of Kingston DDR RAM for my son a few days ago. I decided to go with the VIA KT600 chipset after I made my original post to you after I did some further research. I decided it was more stable and cost less ($80 US).
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7v600/overview.htm
I am a big Intel fan but I needed to replace my son's PIII 933 and didn't have the money to buy Intel. This is only the second time I have bought AMD but my son is very happy with this system. I have SoundMAX audio on my P4 system and I think it's great.
http://www.soundmax.com/
I hope I made this post before you decided what to buy. It's always good to have more choices although the first board I suggested is very good too.
QuoteOriginally posted by ArchAngelCD
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. If you don't want to spend the extra money on the Dual channel board it's no big deal. Dual Channel DDR is not important with an AMD CPU like it is with Intel.
If you are looking to save money you can even go with a Asus board that has the VIA KT600 chipset. The Asus A7V600 board is just a little slower than the nForce 2 boards but IMO, more stable. Some of the goodies on this board are a 3Com Gigabit NIC, Serial ATA and SoundMAX 6 channel audio. Some people are reporting compatibility problems with nVidia's SoundStorm audio. I just bought a A7V600, a Barton 2500+ and a 512Mb stick of Kingston DDR RAM for my son a few days ago. I decided to go with the VIA KT600 chipset after I made my original post to you after I did some further research. I decided it was more stable and cost less ($80 US).
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7v600/overview.htm
I am a big Intel fan but I needed to replace my son's PIII 933 and didn't have the money to buy Intel. This is only the second time I have bought AMD but my son is very happy with this system. I have SoundMAX audio on my P4 system and I think it's great.
http://www.soundmax.com/
I hope I made this post before you decided what to buy. It's always good to have more choices although the first board I suggested is very good too.
I have three different AMD systems , one with the AMD AM760MPX chipset, that from my dual AthlonMP 2200+ system, it really kicks the Xeon's 2400's butties! In apps I use like Maya 4.2 and lots of other stuff like Doom3 and RTCW.
DUAL DDR runs way better on Dual Opterons than Athlons, because, Athlons are not made to use Dual DDR, there is actully little difference between a VIA KT600 or nForce2 ULTRA 400 system only when playing games like Unreal 2 and UT 2004 the nForce2 Ultra 400 really starts winning.
The other system chipset I use is the VIA KT 333, also a very nice one especially for the Voodoo5 5500 AGP cards.
*sigh*
Did you have to post all those pics?
lecram25 is right.... next time, why don't you just post the links to the pics?
QuoteOriginally posted by ArchAngelCD
lecram25 is right.... next time, why don't you just post the links to the pics?
yeah maybe so oh well I didn't know that you guys don't have Cable Internet, I thought that Cable was the most standard speed in 21st Centry, welcome to the future.
Sorry about my tekst there but that is the way it is in Europe, sorry dudes, but next time I will hunt smaller pics.
That wasn't really the point though...the point was that for someone asking if that was a 5500PCI on an AGP box, there was no need to post all those pics...we all know what the two boxes are like, i.e. we didn't need to know about the "new" and "old" boxes which btw is not true...
The "New 5500 PCI Box:" is not the new one, but the European version, hence the french...
Sorry Obi-wan, but even on cable those pics take a minute to load, I'm not even gonna try on my 56k (I'm at a friends house). I don't see a difference between the old/new AGP boxes, but please, no more pics!
EDIT: Oh, I see, his mouth doesn't show on the newer one, mine's the old
Yeah okay:), it must be morning now in America is it not?
Here in Holland it is about 01:14 AM... I'd better go to sleep now! LOL[:o)] gotta get out at 06:32 AM in the morning :D :D :D
But okay you guys are right, I have to admit that. But if I have something special I will post a pic of it, but normal things like this, I give you two blokes the crown [8D]
The Force Is With You both ;)
Yeah, the box is agp, but the vid card is pci. That was the only box the seller had to ship in in, so it'll make a nice house for my V5 agp when I sell it :)
Arch,
I haven't purchased a board yet as I was still getting prices. I was looking at the kt600 board too, although I'm stuck in two minds! If the difference is minuet, then I'll go for the kt600, but if I'll notice a speed difference then I definately go for the single channel nforce board.
I hate buying motherboards...... [:(!]
Thanks again to everyone for there advice!!! :D
I'm glad I could help InSomNiaN.
As long as you buy Asus you won't have a problem IMO.
Obi-Wan Kenobi,
I do have a cable modem and my connection is 3 Megabit. I was agreeing the pics weren't necessary because not everyone has cable and it's just being thoughtful not to post so many pics.
Hmm, when I made that post, it was like 7 in the afternoon, I think. Oh well, it's 12:30am now.
Live Long and Prosper ;)