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samuraiboy
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Posted - 26/01/2004 :  16:42:14  Show Profile  Visit samuraiboy's Homepage  Send samuraiboy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
what good vcard can i use to my k6-2 500 system...whihc will give higher framerates? the voodoo5 5500, the voodoo3 2000 or voodoo2 12mb SLI? thanks!!!!!!!

NitroX infinity
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Netherlands
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Posted - 26/01/2004 :  17:45:52  Show Profile  Visit NitroX infinity's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Voodoo 2.
You won't get full performance from a V5 or V3 on a 500MHz system (you need at least about a 2GHz system for that).
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qrazi
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Netherlands
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Posted - 26/01/2004 :  19:51:59  Show Profile  Visit qrazi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
but you will get free FSAA when you use a voodoo5...

ECS K7s5a@ 147 MHz, Athlon XP 1600+@1825+, Voodoo5 5500 @166 MHz, 512mb pc3200
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NitroX infinity
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Netherlands
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Posted - 26/01/2004 :  20:06:05  Show Profile  Visit NitroX infinity's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah and 32bit colours. But it's still a waste to put a V5/3 in a 500MHz system.
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Knuckles
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Posted - 26/01/2004 :  20:16:06  Show Profile  Visit Knuckles's Homepage  Click to see Knuckles's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
not really, my friend's old PC has (and still) a V3 2000 PCI on a 233MHz. Running really great!

Edited by - Knuckles on 26/01/2004 20:24:45
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burgunder
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Posted - 26/01/2004 :  20:44:21  Show Profile  Visit burgunder's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I also believe you get the voodoo 2, see some cpu scaling benchmarks for the voodoo 2 here http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/19980204/index.html
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NitroX infinity
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Posted - 26/01/2004 :  21:10:02  Show Profile  Visit NitroX infinity's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Knuckles, it's not about the performance you get, it's about the performance you miss out on with a 500MHz CPU.
The V5 performs at least two times as good with a 2GHz CPU as with a 500MHz CPU.
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qrazi
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Posted - 27/01/2004 :  08:40:13  Show Profile  Visit qrazi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
true.... so the TS just has to look for some prices.... and get the cheapest of all three options, since all three options will fit good enough in his system...

ECS K7s5a@ 147 MHz, Athlon XP 1600+@1825+, Voodoo5 5500 @166 MHz, 512mb pc3200
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burgunder
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Posted - 27/01/2004 :  09:24:37  Show Profile  Visit burgunder's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you buy a voodoo 5500 pci you can always use it if you choose to upgrade your computer, otherwise i will take back what i wrote earlier and say that you should get a voodoo 3.
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samuraiboy
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Philippines


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Posted - 27/01/2004 :  15:32:45  Show Profile  Visit samuraiboy's Homepage  Send samuraiboy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
well i have all of those... can i benefit on the geforce2 and a voodoo2 SLI combination? thanks to the help guys!!!
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Nightbird
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Posted - 27/01/2004 :  19:26:55  Show Profile  Visit Nightbird's Homepage  Send Nightbird a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Well, this is a K6-2/500, i would say that the "last" gfx cards will wait the Cpu...

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amp_man
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Posted - 27/01/2004 :  20:40:38  Show Profile  Visit amp_man's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, a geforce 2 (non-MX, GTS is fairly good, and I bought one for $10) would be a good compliment for your system specs, if you're running anything that is more demanding then the GF2 can handle, you'll run into the CPU bottlenecking.
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samuraiboy
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Philippines


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Posted - 28/01/2004 :  13:37:39  Show Profile  Visit samuraiboy's Homepage  Send samuraiboy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
well i want to take advantage of the HW T&L of the Geforce cards... if it comes to framerate for my k6-2+ system... which will deliver fast framerates? v2, v3 or v5 5500? as 3dfx says FRAMERATE IS POWER!!! im not the visual quality guy... thanks for the help...
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dborca
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Posted - 28/01/2004 :  13:45:46  Show Profile  Visit dborca's Homepage  Send dborca a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by samuraiboy

well i want to take advantage of the HW T&L of the Geforce cards... if it comes to framerate for my k6-2+ system... which will deliver fast framerates? v2, v3 or v5 5500? as 3dfx says FRAMERATE IS POWER!!!

Hehe! Why, my (samurai)boy? You wanna die young?

quote:
im not the visual quality guy... thanks for the help...

Tis remembers me of something: suppose you have a B/W TV and you're happy with it. Some day, you go over to a friend who has a Color TV to watch your favorite movie. I bet that when you return home, you feel like throwing your B/W off the window.

My point is, this kind of mentality brought 3dfx' doom. And their doom was by no means DoomIII.

Regards,
Daniel Borca

Edited by - dborca on 28/01/2004 13:46:21
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samuraiboy
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Posted - 28/01/2004 :  13:53:35  Show Profile  Visit samuraiboy's Homepage  Send samuraiboy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
yup, 3dfx bring so much visual quality with the voodoo5 that they forgot about the framerate issue... as long as the game has good visuals and has a fast framerate, its fine with me...
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dborca
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Posted - 28/01/2004 :  15:26:21  Show Profile  Visit dborca's Homepage  Send dborca a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by samuraiboy

yup, 3dfx bring so much visual quality with the voodoo5 that they forgot about the framerate issue... as long as the game has good visuals and has a fast framerate, its fine with me...


Wrong! They were always against people's request! They were hanging on speed when people wanted quality, and then after they were hanging on visual quality when people asked for speed.

Example Voodoo3: they brought speed when people wanted quality. That's why nVidia shadowed 3dfx. The lie went bigger when they kept asserting that internal rendering is done in 32bit. That didn't warmed anyone... Because they had the 32bit SVGA core -- and because everything was 32bit -- why they still refused to implement 32bit rendering?
Example Napalm: they brought quality (FSAA) when people wanted speed. That's why nVidia took over in the end. Long time after Napalm was released, there were no CPUS to scale to it. This means FILLRATE. Which is useless, when the CPU dies trying to keep up with the geometry.

Indeed, 3dfx got burned by Napalm!

Oh, and when you remember the mythical Rampage was planned to be released "just after V2". With noone to prove it, I think that was another HUGE lie.

Regards,
Daniel Borca
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