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PanoramixDruida
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Argentina
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Posted - 07/10/2003 :  14:09:05  Show Profile  Visit PanoramixDruida's Homepage  Send PanoramixDruida an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
It's good news to now that finally we'll have OpenGL updates!!!.
I can't wait the day to download these dll!!!
Thanks a lot!!!

Edited by - Amigamerlin on 22/06/2004 10:29:20

Mr_khyron
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Posted - 08/10/2003 :  14:35:06  Show Profile  Visit Mr_khyron's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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PHOENIX
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France


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Posted - 08/10/2003 :  23:40:13  Show Profile  Visit PHOENIX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah ! Keep on the good work !

Best regards to the team
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dborca
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Romania


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Posted - 09/10/2003 :  15:11:23  Show Profile  Visit dborca's Homepage  Send dborca a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PanoramixDruida

It's good news to now that finally we'll have OpenGL updates!!!.
I can't wait the day to download these dll!!!
Thanks a lot!!!



Yes, I can't wait However, bear in mind Mesa is MESA not MesaGL! So, please...

Regards,
Borca Daniel
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PanoramixDruida
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Argentina
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Posted - 09/10/2003 :  17:34:25  Show Profile  Visit PanoramixDruida's Homepage  Send PanoramixDruida an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
What is the difference between Mesa and MesaGL?. I ask this, just because I don't know it!
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dborca
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Posted - 09/10/2003 :  18:22:37  Show Profile  Visit dborca's Homepage  Send dborca a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PanoramixDruida

What is the difference between Mesa and MesaGL?. I ask this, just because I don't know it!


Basically, NONE. But anything *GL related might or might not piss off the SGI guys. Capisce? We don't want to bother anyone...


Regards,
Borca Daniel
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Black_Out
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USA


76 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2003 :  20:10:50  Show Profile  Visit Black_Out's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Daniel: What are the differenes between MESA and OpenGL, are they vastly different or quite similar? Could you give me the technical answer?

I know it's a sick habbit but I gobble up whatever I can techie related especially technical specifications.

I have always "heard" of mesa but it's never been explained to me...if nothing else, do you maybe have a link to SGI's site for MESA? (yeah I know, it's a bit lazy asking)

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dborca
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Posted - 11/10/2003 :  12:17:29  Show Profile  Visit dborca's Homepage  Send dborca a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Black_Out

Daniel: What are the differenes between MESA and OpenGL, are they vastly different or quite similar? Could you give me the technical answer?

No differences to user! But don't tell anyone... The reason Mesa is not *GL something is to avoid pissing off SGI people. Capisce?
quote:
I have always "heard" of mesa but it's never been explained to me...if nothing else, do you maybe have a link to SGI's site for MESA? (yeah I know, it's a bit lazy asking)

http://www.mesa3d.org
I think it will be self-explanatory...


Regards,
Borca Daniel
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Black_Out
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USA


76 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2003 :  02:46:36  Show Profile  Visit Black_Out's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Pissing off SGI -- is a corporation like that acutally spending the time watching over these forums or this site?

I get the distinct feeling that from what you say that they must be reading these forums or something?

I don't mean to piss of SGI in anyway way -- why they'd care what you or I would say considering Mesa is weird by how you seem to be walking on egg-shells about this is weirding me out a tad bit. Like they are watching over your back or something.

Is there a URL on SGI's site you can provide so that I can go to their website and read for myself?

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Black_Out
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USA


76 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2003 :  02:48:07  Show Profile  Visit Black_Out's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Never mind in regards to providing a link - you already did that -- DOH! My mistake

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amp_man
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545 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2003 :  03:56:15  Show Profile  Visit amp_man's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Black_Out

Pissing off SGI -- is a corporation like that acutally spending the time watching over these forums or this site?

I get the distinct feeling that from what you say that they must be reading these forums or something?


who can really tell? so why not play it safe and cover your butt just in case?

when the sun goes down, the music turns up...

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Black_Out
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USA


76 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2003 :  05:28:53  Show Profile  Visit Black_Out's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I can understand that but it just sounds weird, especially since SGI seems to have absolutely nothing to do with Mesa, and it is developed through one of the sourceforge projects meaning it's 3rd party.

Why would a corporation like that pay attention to (no offense here) to a piddle little no name website that supports and abandoned video card of about 3 years now? I highly doubt they'd use their time and resources to watchdog a site like this when they got bigger and better thigns to do -- this site is just small time game that isn't a threat and/or a corporation like Nvidia or ATI, which I could see if there were to watch dog a site like that.

That's the only reason I ask....but cover yer ass 101 is a good thing now-a-days. What would they do if I said, "SGI OpenGL blows donkey balls"?

That's just an example, I just so happen to think highly of their OpenGL, but I think you can see why I think this is just a bit odd.

But -- whatever....I guess. Not a big problem, just raised a brow with me though.

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Amigamerlin
Moderator

Italy


163 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2003 :  09:24:35  Show Profile  Visit Amigamerlin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Black_Out

Yeah, I can understand that but it just sounds weird, especially since SGI seems to have absolutely nothing to do with Mesa, and it is developed through one of the sourceforge projects meaning it's 3rd party.


Mesa is MESA - Opengl is opengl nothing else then is right to call it how it should be called . If your nik is black_out you must be called Black_out and not elseware .. right?

quote:
Why would a corporation like that pay attention to (no offense here) to a piddle little no name website that supports and abandoned video card of about 3 years now? I highly doubt they'd use their time and resources to watchdog a site like this when they got bigger and better thigns to do -- this site is just small time game that isn't a threat and/or a corporation like Nvidia or ATI, which I could see if there were to watch dog a site like that.


This is not the problem !! ... Mesa is an alternative at opengl for linux and is respect for the author calling it with the its real name !! only This -- you understand?. When we release this DLL to download the dll will be called MESA.dll and not opengl32.dll. .. after to use it you must rename it .. but the name is MESA !!

well .. the good of this DLL that is right now 100% opengl 1.1 compatible and .....% 1.2 ....% 1.3 and ....1.4%

You can see yourself the statement of this dll in the next hour in this board.

Not too bad

Daniel and koolsmoky are other guys doing another GREAT MIRACLE !! .. I'm really proud to have 2 ALIEN (mean 2 really really really skilled guys) in the team !!

Bye to all

Amigamerlin
3DFXZONE MODERATOR
Powerd By Voodoo5 6000

Edited by - Amigamerlin on 13/10/2003 09:27:39
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dborca
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Romania


425 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2003 :  12:20:26  Show Profile  Visit dborca's Homepage  Send dborca a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Black_Out


That's the only reason I ask....but cover yer ass 101 is a good thing now-a-days. What would they do if I said, "SGI OpenGL blows donkey balls"?


Uhmmm... I remember Lecram25 tried to piss me off some time ago. I chilled him out! But another great mind arose from the crowd...

If you really, really, really feel like saying: "SGI OpenGL blows donkey balls", then go ahead! Freedom of speach! You can say anything that you want as long as your statements don't include third parties!

Since you know sh!t about Mesa, try to be clever enough and refrain from making stupid statements!

Until now, I passively watched your, Lecram25's and amp_map's evolutions... Don't make me (ab)use my position in the forums, ok?

BTW, at least amp_man had a nice opinion on this thread...

Regards,
Borca Daniel
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lecram25
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USA
327 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2003 :  16:04:00  Show Profile  Visit lecram25's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How exactly did I try to piss you off? If I did, I swear it was unintentional...

* /me starts to recall... *

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dborca
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Romania


425 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2003 :  16:40:24  Show Profile  Visit dborca's Homepage  Send dborca a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lecram25

How exactly did I try to piss you off? If I did, I swear it was unintentional...


Remember this:
quote:
So if your Voodoo3 is so damn powerfull and great, why aren't people giving two ****s about a driver update?


Or... if memory still doesn't serve:
http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=140&whichpage=1

Don't worry, I'm past the heat! But I don't like being constantly ****ed up, okay?

Regards,
Borca Daniel
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