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KODE
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Posted - 24/10/2005 :  14:25:13  Show Profile  Visit KODE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi all,

I just build a second rig to surf internet and some occasional game playing. The problem is that I tried Need for speed Porsche unleashed and Unreal Tournament and they both freeze at the introduction, doesn't even let me start the game. I tried WinMe, XP Pro SP1, Dx8.1, DX9c, Voodoolizer, 3DHQ, Default XP drivers, Amigamerlin's, and none of them solved the problem. I'm starting to loose hope on making my V5 work with games. I thought this could be related to low phisical memory (128MB) or some ACPI/IRQ conflict. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I build this rig just to use my V5.

Best regards,

KODE.

Athlon 800MHz
ASUS K7M
128MB PC100 2-2-2-5
Ninjamicros GFD
Voodoo5 5500 AGP

ps47
Moderator

Slovakia
1461 Posts

Posted - 24/10/2005 :  20:00:39  Show Profile  Visit ps47's Homepage  Send ps47 an AOL message  Send ps47 an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
I would try setting your BIOS to "safe" defaults.remove all hardware like sound cards and modems,leave just the voodoo5,and see if it helps (you may need to do this on a clean instal of win,preferably win98se)..

The 3Dfx Helppage and Game Guide / Voodoo3/4/5 enviromental variables
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bloodworm
Average

USA


278 Posts

Posted - 24/10/2005 :  23:16:17  Show Profile  Visit bloodworm's Homepage  Reply with Quote
128MB isn't even enough RAM to run WINXP. 256MB minimum if you want to run anything more than just the desktop. could be just sound related too.

Bloody Mess
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KODE
Novice

9 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2005 :  03:40:14  Show Profile  Visit KODE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the tips fellas, but I just installed a fresh copy (like al the previous ones) of Windows98 and the same problem occur. This is so annoying! I tried without the modem and the sound is on-board on the K7M, tried safe settings on BIOS relaxing memory timigs (2-2-2-5 is mem SPD btw)

When I run direct draw test the second cube (Hardware) is all messed up with lines and meshes all over the place...

Athlon 800MHz
ASUS K7M
128MB PC100 2-2-2-5
Ninjamicros GFD
Voodoo5 5500 AGP
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Rolo01
Experienced

Germany


508 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2005 :  09:44:17  Show Profile  Visit Rolo01's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Try running the V5 in single chip mode.
In case there are no errors then, this could indicate that one VSA100 is dying.
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ps47
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Slovakia
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Posted - 25/10/2005 :  13:25:03  Show Profile  Visit ps47's Homepage  Send ps47 an AOL message  Send ps47 an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
yes,this indicates hardware problems with the voodoo5,single chip is a good idea.one last thing: try cleaning the agp connector and slot.while it looks stupid,it has worked for me once (one supposedly dead v5 miraculously came back to life)..

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KODE
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9 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2005 :  14:15:54  Show Profile  Visit KODE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thatīs what I was afraid of... Will try cleaning the AGP connector and slot. Regarding running the V5 with a single chip, how can I do that? via voodoo tools?

Thanks a lot fellas.

KODE.

Athlon 800MHz
ASUS K7M
128MB PC100 2-2-2-5
Ninjamicros GFD
Voodoo5 5500 AGP
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KODE
Novice

9 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2005 :  14:38:36  Show Profile  Visit KODE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just set it to single chip did it did the trick, no more meshes and lines on Direct draw test! I tried UT with 3DFx Glide and it runs perfectly no artifacts no flashing textures. This indicates a 100% hardware problem? Will try to clean it and see what happens, wish me luck fellas!

KODE.

Athlon 800MHz
ASUS K7M
128MB PC100 2-2-2-5
Ninjamicros GFD
Voodoo5 5500 AGP
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ps47
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Slovakia
1461 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2005 :  14:39:09  Show Profile  Visit ps47's Homepage  Send ps47 an AOL message  Send ps47 an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
just open the anti-aliasing options in 3dfx tools,there is a mode named "single chip"..

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KODE
Novice

9 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2005 :  16:19:14  Show Profile  Visit KODE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just found the problem: C100 capacitor near the AUX Power connector is missing!!! Anyone know its value so I could try to find a similar at my work? Written on top: 10-16s-0I4

Regards,

KODE.

Athlon 800MHz
ASUS K7M
128MB PC100 2-2-2-5
Ninjamicros GFD
Voodoo5 5500 AGP
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KODE
Novice

9 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2005 :  16:22:37  Show Profile  Visit KODE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You can see a picture of the cap that is missing here:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1102197#post1102197

Athlon 800MHz
ASUS K7M
128MB PC100 2-2-2-5
Ninjamicros GFD
Voodoo5 5500 AGP
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ps47
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Slovakia
1461 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2005 :  18:25:08  Show Profile  Visit ps47's Homepage  Send ps47 an AOL message  Send ps47 an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
first,you will need a detailed screenshot of the missing capacitor (actually,detailed description would be enough).then,you need to find an identical capacitor and solder it to its place.an I would also go and kick the sellers sorry a$$.

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KODE
Novice

9 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2005 :  21:29:50  Show Profile  Visit KODE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi ps47, just posted a picture of my V5 on the link above. I already replaced the cap with a 10uF 50v one(as recommended at work) but it didnīt fix the problem :( time to kick someoneīs a$$

Athlon 800MHz
ASUS K7M
128MB PC100 2-2-2-5
Ninjamicros GFD
Voodoo5 5500 AGP
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ps47
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Slovakia
1461 Posts

Posted - 25/10/2005 :  22:13:55  Show Profile  Visit ps47's Homepage  Send ps47 an AOL message  Send ps47 an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
my thought exactly.

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Edited by - ps47 on 25/10/2005 22:14:21
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KODE
Novice

9 Posts

Posted - 26/10/2005 :  02:28:45  Show Profile  Visit KODE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This is so sad... I was really happy with my old new toy. This little rig will loose all itīs charm.

Thanks for all the help fellas, It was greatly appreciated!

Best regards,

KODE.

Athlon 800MHz
ASUS K7M
128MB PC100 2-2-2-5
Ninjamicros GFD
Voodoo5 5500 AGP
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KODE
Novice

9 Posts

Posted - 26/10/2005 :  19:44:57  Show Profile  Visit KODE's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well, looks like I'll have a nice U$30 voodoo ashtray at home :( just called the guy that sold me card (particular) and he blamed me for the problem, pretty obvious isn't it? I'll have to live with it, but I'm sure I will be able to lay my head in the pillow and sleep nicely... not so sure if he would be able to do the same ;)

Athlon 800MHz
ASUS K7M
128MB PC100 2-2-2-5
Ninjamicros GFD
Voodoo5 5500 AGP
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