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pompidu
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Posted - 07/07/2003 :  01:11:57  Show Profile  Visit pompidu's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i running voodoo 3 2000pci,after i install amigamerlin 2.5 i lost fps for my half life game, i went from 20 to 4,please help!

pompidu
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Posted - 07/07/2003 :  01:22:57  Show Profile  Visit pompidu's Homepage  Reply with Quote
its amigamerlin 2.5 se
filename: am25sexp.zip
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Nightbird
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Posted - 07/07/2003 :  02:10:22  Show Profile  Visit Nightbird's Homepage  Send Nightbird a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
and before the Amig. 2.5SE ?
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pompidu
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Posted - 07/07/2003 :  04:11:31  Show Profile  Visit pompidu's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well before i had original driver from 3dfx for win.98,i got 20 fps,when i upgraded to xp,the driver cd doesnt have xp,i looked for xp driver and found amigamerlin,but when i ran it,i got only 5 fps.
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Nightbird
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Posted - 10/07/2003 :  05:07:12  Show Profile  Visit Nightbird's Homepage  Send Nightbird a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
you can perhaps install a minigl in the \gldrv of HalfLife (choose 3dfx minigl option in the game)

and i don't know your config. but with XP, 256 mo seem to be a minimum for the Game and what's your cpu ?
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Glide
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Napoli


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Posted - 10/07/2003 :  10:53:56  Show Profile  Visit Glide's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi all.

- pompidu

After Windows XP OS installing you can "naturally" see some frames fall: the new OS uses differently your hardware (cpu/mainboard/memory/AGP and PCI devices) and this generates some speed loss, expecially if you have a low clock processor, in pc gaming respect to Windows 9x.

So you could optimize you system for gaming.

See those AM setting (GLIde and OGL API's) and reply


-AGP command fifo 2x
-Highest quality video enabled
-Refresh optimization disabled
-Via chipset performance

OPENGL / GLIDE

-16 bit depth precision fast
-32 bit depth precision fast
-3d filter sharper
-Alpha blending sharper
-Anisotropic filter 4 tap
-Force 16 bit texture disabled
-Force 3d now! instructions enabled (if you have K6-II cpu or other AMD cpu newer)
-Force mmx instruction enabled (if you have Pentium MMX or above cpu)
-Force voodoo rush emulation disabled
-Glide 32bpp rendering software controlled
-Glide guardband clipping enabled
-Glide double buffer
-Hidden surface removal disabled
-Legacy texture compression enabled
-Level of detail bias 0
-Limit texture memory software controlled
-Maximum buffered frames 6 pending buffer
-Mip mapping dithering disabled
-Open gl guardband clipping enabled
-Open gl Z culling disabled
-Speed Setting fastest v-sync disabled


If speed boost will be little uses WickedGL driver, as Nightbird has suggested you , like interface between Voodoo3 and Halflife

If you have a VIA chipset based motherboard install reference (VIA) 4in1 drivers (http://www.hwsetup.it/periferiche/mainboard/via.htm)

WickedGL is downlodable from 3dfxzone.it Voodoo3 area.


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pompidu
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Posted - 20/07/2003 :  01:13:51  Show Profile  Visit pompidu's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i tryed looking for wicked gl,couldnt find it but i downloaded
amigamerlin25xp.exe of this site.after i extracted i notice there is new exe programs than a version i downloaded from a different site.also it contained a wickedgl driver too.i go to read me i get this

1.- INSTALLATION WITH FULL SUPPORT OF 3DFX TOOLS -

Install 3dfx tools and ignore the errors, reboot, open 3dfx tools setup program again and repair!

thats all the setup i get,there is setup.exe,isetup.exe,3dfx tools.msi
but on this site it gives me these instructions

2.- Setup -


Run regedit and find
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\

Delete "3dfxvs" folder

Reboot

Execute "Driver setup.exe" then restart

Execute "isetup.exe" to install complete install the tools then restart

do i do the second step then install 3dfx tools.msi after driver and isetup is installed?
please help
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Glide
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Napoli


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Posted - 20/07/2003 :  10:40:13  Show Profile  Visit Glide's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
tryed looking for wicked gl,couldnt find it


3dfxzone.it --> 3dfx ---> Voodoo3 --> Tweak: now download Metabyte WickedGL v. 2.99 or 3.02

quote:
amigamerlin25xp.exe of this site.after i extracted i notice there is new exe programs than a version i downloaded from a different site


I have no responsability if somebody or a different site could modify original AM kit hosted by 3dfxzone.

quote:
1.- INSTALLATION WITH FULL SUPPORT OF 3DFX TOOLS -

Install 3dfx tools and ignore the errors, reboot, open 3dfx tools setup program again and repair!

thats all the setup i get,there is setup.exe,isetup.exe,3dfx tools.msi
but on this site it gives me these instructions

2.- Setup -


Run regedit and find
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\

Delete "3dfxvs" folder

Reboot

Execute "Driver setup.exe" then restart

Execute "isetup.exe" to install complete install the tools then restart



1)Delete registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\3dfxvs and reboot system

2)Run Driver Setup (am25sexp folder) and reboot system.

3)Run isetup (am25sexp folder) and reboot system.

Thus you install Voodoo3 drivers and tools.

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pompidu
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Posted - 20/07/2003 :  16:35:03  Show Profile  Visit pompidu's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i ran setup.exe and rebooted.i ran isetup.exe hit repair and rebooted.
those Am settings u metioned(look below),where do i set them up,i go to programs > 3dfx folder >i click on all the programs availble but never seen anything having to do with those settings.thanx

See those AM setting (GLIde and OGL API's) and reply


-AGP command fifo 2x
-Highest quality video enabled
-Refresh optimization disabled
-Via chipset performance

OPENGL / GLIDE

-16 bit depth precision fast
-32 bit depth precision fast
-3d filter sharper
-Alpha blending sharper
-Anisotropic filter 4 tap
-Force 16 bit texture disabled
-Force 3d now! instructions enabled (if you have K6-II cpu or other AMD cpu newer)
-Force mmx instruction enabled (if you have Pentium MMX or above cpu)
-Force voodoo rush emulation disabled
-Glide 32bpp rendering software controlled
-Glide guardband clipping enabled
-Glide double buffer
-Hidden surface removal disabled
-Legacy texture compression enabled
-Level of detail bias 0
-Limit texture memory software controlled
-Maximum buffered frames 6 pending buffer
-Mip mapping dithering disabled
-Open gl guardband clipping enabled
-Open gl Z culling disabled
-Speed Setting fastest v-sync disabled
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Glide
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Napoli


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Posted - 21/07/2003 :  11:57:10  Show Profile  Visit Glide's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Go to Control Panel --> Video Properties --> Settings --> Advanced. At this point if your install is correct you could see 3dfx Tools and make card driver setup.

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Soulblighter
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Portugal
9 Posts

Posted - 27/07/2003 :  05:47:19  Show Profile  Visit Soulblighter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Anisotropic Filtering.... Nice add... but i don't recall this seeting on 3dfx drivers...

FX_GL_ANISOTROPIC

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Glide
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Napoli


24404 Posts

Posted - 27/07/2003 :  11:49:21  Show Profile  Visit Glide's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Aniso filtering control will be no included in AM 3.0 release...

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