strange crashes on testing glide / direct3d

Started by Eclipse, 07 August 2004, 15:00:25

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Eclipse

hiho,
I bought myself a voodoo 5 5500 lately and am now trying to set her up properly.
I managed to set up the drivers (correctly, imho) and was starting to test glide/direct3d. on testing the card displays a fuzzy blurr of colors (looks like the distorted desktopscreen) and my system freezes.
I limited the rendering to single chip rendering for d3d and d3d works fine now (althou i'm not happy limiting my card). glide still causes the distorted screen and locks my system..:(
anyone encountered a similar problem, or can give me a hint what is wrong with my voodoo/system/setup?

my systems specs:
duron 800 @ win98SE
Voodoo 5 5500 Agp with 1.18 bios,
Amigamerlin 2.5 drivers
Directx 9.0c

i tested compability for d3d with dxdiag and glide with the diablo2 d2vidtst.

thx in advance...

E.
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Nightbird

#1
What's your power supply ?

Is your card overclocked ?
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Eclipse

300W noname
and no the card is not overclocked.
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Kyon_CoraeL

hmmm have u tried the amigamerlin 2.9 it should be more stable.
or have u tried Raziel's Evolution I hear great things from those drivers.
 

Eclipse

i did. same problem with all drivers i tested (these were the most common, i think).
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Glide

Eclipse, welcome to this board.

Please replace VSA-100 coolers with newer: in this step, use Voodoo5 only as external device in our system.

Let us know if problem remains.


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Eclipse

ok, i replaced the fans on the coolers with some decent papst i borrowed, found an old AT power supply and ran the voodoo on her own 250W power supply and still she freezes on glide or d3d.
btw, i don't think it's a heat problem, for the card runs absolutely stable in non-hardware accel. mode and the freeze is on switching to the accellerated mode (distorted picture + freeze).
is it possible, that some hardware damage is the cause?
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bloodworm

check your bios for a couple of things.  your AGP aperture should be set to 64Mb because lower or higher settings on SOME motherboards can cause problems with the agp port itself (MB chipset) and also change the timing on the port (1x/2x/4x).  make sure PnP OS is OFF in the bios, this lets the MB do the IRQ shuffle.  The only other thing I can think of is that your DX9.0c is not quite installed right.  try reinstalling and also try some other drivers too.  try running things with VSYNC ON too.....  also make sure you have the latest and greatest INF for your MB chipset (for the AGP port stuff) and NO OVERCLOCKING.  good luck.  by the way, what chipset/MB ARE you running?
Bloody Mess

Eclipse

#8
that sweety is running on a abit kt7a. thought of latest chipset drivers too. i will restart working with her soon, i think. atm i lack the time and the nerves (of steel ;)).
the bios settings are ok. did check them before even putting her on my mb.

<edit>
weird thing to notice: with the xp default drivers the card can do 3d3 without any problems. I don't know if they use single chip rendering by default; just wondered.....</edit>
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bloodworm

Are you running 98SE or XP?  your first post states 98se? and your last post states XP?  You will not be able to load drivers into XP correctly without disabling XP's dll "saver" routines.  there are a couple of ways and they usually invole reg-editing. there are posts all over this board on this subject. do a search for them...  XP will exibit exactly what you are seeing if the drivers are not installed correctly.
Bloody Mess

Eclipse

i know how to install the drivers on xp. i tried to set the voodoo up on my win98se partition first. then tried on xp to have some reference, if maybe the os is cause of the problem.
.. obviously it's not the os..:/
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Kyon_CoraeL

What bios is your video card using?

Did you try flashing it?
 

bloodworm

found this on the abit website:

Why do I get a shaking or vibrating display with ABIT Siluro MX400 and KT7A mainboard? Or the 3D gaming failed sometimes?  

 
Solution

If users experience a display or 3D gaming problem with KT7A series mainboard and Siluro MX400 family graphic card, please manually change the "AGP driving Control" to FF, EF, FE or EE.
Advanced Chipset Features -> AGP Driving Control -- Auto -- Manual -- FF -- Save and Exit Setup.

Updated: 01-30-2002

also check your AGP settings in the MB bios for voltage and speed....

Bloody Mess

bloodworm

the latest MB BIOS for your abit board is "A9".  it looks like it fixes an AGP problem with an Nvidia card....  may need it here too.
Bloody Mess

Eclipse

#14
thx for the research bloody, i'll focus on my mb for now and try to get the latest/best biosupdate/settings for the voodoo.
someone else got my mb and faced similar problems?

Kyon_CoraeL, bios is 1.18 as stated above, and yes it's an updated one.
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