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 3DFX Voodoo5 5500 works on PCI-Express !!

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jix-reggio Posted - 29/01/2011 : 19:29:44
Great news for 3dfx owners ...

3Dfx Voodoo5 5500 PLX is a Pci-E bridged card !
Great performance on benchs.


Have a look on this french topic :
http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/Hardware/2D-3D/topic-voodoo-3dfx-sujet_567660_30.htm#bas

Or view directly this awesome picture of the Voodoo5 5500 PLX :
http://images.camarades-pc.fr/N0538873001296321278.jpg



Look at this UT DEMO session on D3D FSAA2X 1280*1024
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1HHjPIOrso

Thanks to PLX technology.

Thanks for the great work of this site and Sfft team.
Happy to share this.


More with PexTurbo ...




Look at this UT Glide 76 Fps gameplay in 1280*1024
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY4v-Z676gY

And finally, runs smoothly on Windows 10 !
https://youtu.be/A7A7bLe1O2M


Follow pci-express ...




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m14radu Posted - 14/05/2020 : 19:30:34
welcome here mate !
:)
the pcix adapter i test were all ok, i did not notice any performance drop between them. The model i used you can find in my older posts.
post some pictures with your setup !

EuronGreyjoy Posted - 19/07/2018 : 19:20:31
Hello everyone, this is my first post and I am new to the forum therefore I trust in your understanding of my limitations

I found this topic by chance and as a 3dfx resurrector I would love to use a Voodoo 5500 in a WinXP build and hope you could help me with that.

First of all, this is my motherboard:

K8NF4G-SATA2 (http://www.asrock.com/MB/NVIDIA/K8NF4G-SATA2/)




Socket 754 for AMD Athlon™ 64 and Sempron processors
NVIDIA® GeForce 6100 chipset
NVIDIA® nForce 410 MCP chipset
Chipset capable to FSB 1000 MHz (2.0 GT/s), Hyper-Transport Technology, AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Technology
Integrated NV44 graphics DX9.0 VGA, Pixel Shader 3.0, Max. shared memory 128MB
Supports DDR400, 2 DIMMs slots
Hybrid Booster - ASRock Safe Overclocking Technology

PCI Express x16 slot for VGA interface
PCI Express x1 slot


2 ports of SATA2 3.0Gb/s, RAID 0, 1, JBOD, 2 ATA133 IDE ports
7.1 Channel Superior Quality Audio, 10/100 Ethernet LAN
ASRock 8CH I/O: 4 ready-to-use USB 2.0 ports, 7.1 channel audio jack


In order to get best results, which model / version of a Voodoo 5500 and consequent adapter should I exactly look for?

Of course please ask any further detail if needed, thanks a lot for any help.


Qjimbo Posted - 02/05/2018 : 22:16:22
Does the Voodoo 5 PCI with the PCIe adapter work with Windows 98? I know on a software level PCIe is the same as PCI - PCI config space registers, bus-dev-func addresing scheme, etc. - curious if this is the case.
feinripp Posted - 09/11/2017 : 22:11:35
I finally tried SFFT's hint to use Win 10 32bit. Unfortunately it behaves like 64bit. The driver (SFFT or Amigamerlin) can be installed, but afterwards the device manager says "Windows cannot initialize the device driver for this hardware".

It's a little sad we can't use the most powerful 3dfx cards under Windows 10, especially because the Voodoo 2 works. I documented my experiments here:

https://robertkrau.se/posts/3dfx-voodoo-2-with-windows-10
https://robertkrau.se/posts/3dfx-voodoo-2-sli-with-windows-10

Any ideas or driver modifications I could try? I would love to have a way how we can enjoy Voodoos without depending on legacy hardware (except the Voodoos of course).

As for PCI-e adapters, I tried a few different models. Only the ones with the PLX PEX8112 chip seem to work. Beware of the adapters you can see here, the do not seem to support graphic cards.


Spectrobozo Posted - 20/10/2017 : 08:56:06
sadly I did not, I was hoping that someone else would have already tried it,
also unfortunately for my country it usually takes 2 months+ for stuff from aliexpress to arrive, I see some buyers comments there, but they are poorly translated and I don't see anyone mentioning testing it at 66MHz or with video cards.
m14radu Posted - 19/10/2017 : 20:59:53
looks interesting :)
maybe ill buy it!

did you order it ?
Spectrobozo Posted - 19/10/2017 : 09:20:38
did anyone ever test this adapter? it's very cheap and claims 66MHz support

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/PCI-E-Express-X1-to-Dual-PCI-Riser-Extend-Adapter-Card-with-1M-USB3-0-Cable/32781713997.html
jix-reggio Posted - 31/01/2017 : 18:39:55
Humm ...
It would have been be useful if you showed the result 'details' on 3dm2001 to see the score at each test and informations about your configuration hard and software.
feinripp Posted - 30/01/2017 : 22:27:34
Yeah, that was me.



jix-reggio Posted - 28/01/2017 : 10:34:05
I read on voodooalert.de website that a german user test it and explain that a pci-E converter is not necessary to run the V5.
Says he performs a very good 3dm2001 2800 score but not documented.
http://www.voodooalert.de/board/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=22482

Maybe some would like to see if unreleased cards could run in emulation mode.
My contribution is now over and I just wish some will enjoy V5 on Windows 10.
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted - 28/01/2017 : 01:01:29
quote:
Originally posted by jix-reggio

My first video was called "3dfx Voodoo5 runs on last OS". A fact that everyone can verify himself as it is clearly explained in the new written by Glide.

Six months after, I posted "3dfx V5 performs 3dm2000" where I said @2.22 : " Offering a large range of emulated features this driver (W10 generic Vga) can keep your Voodoo5 alive... etc.".

Seems neither you look at it, nor you experiment before judging the article as "pointless, waste of time, etc".

About 3dm2000 / 2001, you know that's outdated software, it recognized the E7500 as 'PIII' and offered me 3 settings to run the test : T&L software, D3D hardware, or D3D pure hardware. I tried them, and the best performance came with D3D pure hardware.
As a 3D-Analyze connoiseur, you know that a Voodoo can't perform shaders in hardware and needs emulation, whatever setting I choose emulation was ON.

There is no conspiracy here and it is useless to speak here in an unpleasant way.



Just the info that was lacking and I did watch your video's I even replied to one of them even that reply wasn't kind, just my reaction that this isn't really all to special sorry to hurt your feelings it just isn't. But other than that my bad for my bold reactions.

I Saw this as one of those multiple hard to believe wannabe threads and we had so many of such topics, but then again the only interesting factor of this project of your is that you got things to work in software mode as Win10, that you got 3D mark to run well this program isn't really opted for 3dfx cards it's quite inaccurate on how it tests things, I am not much of a 3D mark fan myself the games tell me much more, 3D Mark lacks Glide API as well lel.

Also how Win10 sees your VGA card as a standard VGA adapter and you got some things to run, yeah nice; but again everything would run in software mode since software can emulate everything, that is if the hardware in the used system allows that and the same for the OS.
That is the only way you got Pixel Shader / Vertex shader & T&L tests run on the V5, there is no other possible way, forget it.

But other than that this is kind of useless, since Win10 isn't made to run old games especially with Glide API. Win10 has very bad legacy support afaik MS removed Legacy support in Winn10 for the most of it.

Want a good new gen OS try Win7, SFFT did manage to make a driver for Win7 but then again still not an OS of choice if you want optimal glide performance from any Voodoo card.
Most people I know in the 3dfx community sticks to older operating systems to play 3dfx glide games, as they still give the best results.

So you can say what you like as your research goes, that is all fine. Each to their own for that matter anyways.
I myself don't really interest such projects, they don't offer much usable options.
But yeah you got Win10 working on a V5 but other than that it's not useful to play Glide games at solid frame rates.

My apologies for my bold replies back there, not really my intention to make you feel upset or so :)
It's that some years ago we just had a lot of nonsense posts and I mis-saw this as one of them, my bad for that, good luck with your experiments though, I am gonna stick to a real OS for my V5's. Win2K Pro + SP4 and nothing much else
jix-reggio Posted - 27/01/2017 : 22:59:20
Hello, could your driver match to the WDDM 1.3 from MS ?
SuperFurryFurryThing Posted - 27/01/2017 : 21:37:52
Did anyone test the sfft 32 bit driver on 32 bit operating systems later than Win 7. if they have maintained the legacy driver support that was in windows 7 and it is the only display adapter it might just work.

Sfft
jix-reggio Posted - 27/01/2017 : 20:47:36
My first video was called "3dfx Voodoo5 runs on last OS". A fact that everyone can verify himself as it is clearly explained in the new written by Glide.

Six months after, I posted "3dfx V5 performs 3dm2000" where I said @2.22 : " Offering a large range of emulated features this driver (W10 generic Vga) can keep your Voodoo5 alive... etc.".

Seems neither you look at it, nor you experiment before judging the article as "pointless, waste of time, etc".

About 3dm2000 / 2001, you know that's outdated software, it recognized the E7500 as 'PIII' and offered me 3 settings to run the test : T&L software, D3D hardware, or D3D pure hardware. I tried them, and the best performance came with D3D pure hardware.
As a 3D-Analyze connoiseur, you know that a Voodoo can't perform shaders in hardware and needs emulation, whatever setting I choose emulation was ON.

There is no conspiracy here and it is useless to speak here in an unpleasant way.
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted - 27/01/2017 : 14:20:40
quote:
Originally posted by jix-reggio

A Negative comment but full of emotion.



Incorrect full of question more like it, that is if you read my post fully, yet I have doubts that you even did
Your posts lack the needed info that puts them to logical sense.
Hence my replies.

So I ask for the thirst time explain how exactly you got these tests to work without the need of emulation?
There is in no way a V5 can do pixel shader & EMBM tests, so far you have not succeeded to explain how.

It's that I ask you simple questions of info that is missing from your hypothesis..
Yet all you do is you come with defensive nonsense, rather than the logics that describe your so called tests wiih the needed accuracy.

 

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