Legacy Of Kain - Defiance on Intel GMA 950

[abvgzia]

Hi!
to all the nice people here

I bought a desktop pc. And it's great for my work. I'm not a gamer too and that's why i'm not familiar with the particular requirements for each game. I deal great with computers, but not when it comes to video cards. All the games, that i love, are runnig except for LEGACY OF KAIN - DEFIANCE. Although i've read many forums and searched here too for an answer, i still don't have it.

The problem is, i have this Intel GMA 950, which unfortunately does not support hardware TnL. And of course at first i didn't know that. Since then i'm trying to find some way to run the game, but it just gives me some kind of "we don't support your graphic card" message. I tried 3D-Analyze + other tools and many possible configurations + different driver versions with no luck at all. Well... i managed to run the game and even start the first chapter on lowest detail level, but it's worse than a slideshow - looks like i get a new frame every 2-3 seconds, which can't be considered playable It's sad, because I don't want to buy a video card only for that game. And i'll have to change the power supply too if i buy one...

So do you have any ideas how to run LOK - Defiance and actually play it without any of the "slideshow effeects" ? Or some hints that might help me?

Thank you in advance!

My computer specifications are:

MB:                             Asus P5L-MX
Physical Memory:      1015 MB
Minimum Graphics Memory:   64 MB
Maximum Graphics Memory:   128 MB
Graphics Memory in Use:   7 MB
Processor:              Intel Celeron D
Processor Speed:      3333 MHZ

Accelerator in Use:      Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Video BIOS:              1295

Which is many times better than the minimum requirements for Legacy Of Kain - Defiance. Except for the graphic card.

P.S. it's possible, that Defiance really needs so much hardware TnL, that even 3D-Analyze's emulation can't help, but i don't want to believe that

[Cruzado]

please a solution =)

[Glide]

Hi Cruzado,

first of all welcome here and thanks for posting.

Besides, jumping to your question, a happy response is hard to get due to not optimal performaces of Intel graphics units (in general). However, please update Intel GMA 950 driver as well as motherboard's chip-set driver with latest available releases and then try to set-up yout preferred game by 3D-Analyze. Read this tutorial - https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/articles/3d_analyze_user_guide/ - and configure 3D-Analyze being your gpu a DirectX 8 / DirectX 8.1 compliant product (see page 2 of previous tutorial).

Good luck and let me know your results,

Bye bye.

[Cruzado]

It works with the "emulate HW TnL caps" option activated. But the game runs very slowly...

Thanks to Glide, and let me know if you discover a solution for the new problem

[abvgzia]

Thanx, but i've read already almost "everything" here about the 3danalyze's emulation. I'm still trying my best, but i believe that insuficient hardware TnL is the problem... don't know how to deal with that with 3danalyze

[abvgzia]

update:

i've tried to add the pixel shaders and other stuff - some of the things i've tried earlier - and it's still not working. it runs, but it's not playable at all. if you start the game my way, you'll see the following: you press jump and after a few seconds Kain jumps, and this jump lasts for about 5 to 10 seconds.

i've downloaded the latest drivers (december'07) from intel's site. it's still the same. though there was somewhere written, that those "latest drivers" will have a great Software TnL support...

i used the counters from 3danalyze. when i watched the movies it said: ~128 (i think that is the fps  measure), but when the menu loaded, the measure dropped to 1-2 hopeless... and the video ram used was between 25-30mb, which is strange, because the game needs at least 32mb. so i think there is something here... if only i can find a way to use all of the remaining video memory... (btw i set video memory to FIX 128mb from the BIOS settings).

so... if there is some sort of video memory manager, there might be a light at the end of the tunnel but i haven't any luck finding one. thought there are plenty of ram managers...

any ideas?

[abvgzia]

or i may be wrong.

this is from the performance log:

<used vram>,<fps>,<pps>,<ppf>,<overdraw>,<strst>,<sttxstgst>,<ppc>,<sttx>,<stvp>,<svs>,<sss>

-97517568,1,0,0,0,21.000000,6.000000,0.000000,0.000000,1,0.000000,0.000000
-95420416,21,36,1,0,14.095238,1.714286,1.894737,0.857143,2,0.857143,0.000000
-95420416,31,62,2,0,16.000000,2.000000,1.937500,1.000000,3,1.000000,0.000000
-94371840,130,316,2,0,14.246154,2.369231,1.987421,0.946154,3,1.215385,0.000000
-94371840,176,352,2,0,8.000000,0.000000,1.988701,0.000000,3,1.000000,0.000000
-94371840,176,352,2,0,8.000000,0.000000,1.988701,0.000000,3,1.000000,0.000000
-94371840,175,350,2,0,8.000000,0.000000,1.988636,0.000000,3,1.000000,0.000000
-94371840,176,352,2,0,8.000000,0.000000,1.988701,0.000000,3,1.000000,0.000000

an then it goes:

-93323264,4,29433,7358,0,9.750000,2.000000,70.752403,19.500000,1,1.500000,0.000000
-93323264,2,29870,14935,0,17.000000,4.000000,70.282356,38.000000,3,3.000000,0.000000
-93323264,2,30087,15043,0,17.000000,4.000000,70.626762,38.000000,3,3.000000,0.000000
-93323264,2,30097,15048,0,17.000000,4.000000,70.816467,39.000000,3,3.000000,0.000000
-93323264,2,30082,15041,0,17.000000,4.000000,70.781174,39.000000,3,3.000000,0.000000
-93323264,2,29454,14727,0,17.000000,4.000000,70.973495,41.000000,3,3.000000,0.000000
-93323264,2,29454,14727,0,17.000000,4.000000,70.973495,41.000000,3,3.000000,0.000000
-93323264,2,29112,14556,0,17.000000,4.000000,71.178482,41.000000,3,3.000000,0.000000
-93323264,2,29268,14634,0,17.000000,4.000000,71.385368,41.000000,3,3.000000,0.000000

does that mean LOK Defiance gets only 2 fps while using 93mb of video ram?
then it means there's no other way but buying a video card... sh*t

[ps47]

Originally posted by abvgzia


then it means there's no other way but buying a video card... sh*t

correct.you cant do F1 racing with the volkswagen beetle.period.

[abvgzia]

i've completed nfs ug and nfs ug 2 with the volkswagen though.

[hcruz1976]

anyone had any luck running C&C 3 with 3d Analyzer ver 2.34 or 2.36b?
I have a Radeon IGP 345M