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Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 25 January 2009, 11:49:00
As this is an important forum where 3DFX fans meet, it is only fair I should update the status of my 3DFX modding projects here too:
Long story short, I will link next the orriginal topics of the mods allready performed:

Voodoo4 AGP 64Mb:
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1145604124

The group-buy of 16Mb chips for VSA100 based cards:
(Contains some nice infos)
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1220381997

Voodoo5 AGP 128Mb:
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1223002040

Voodoo4 PCI 64Mb:
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1223587794

Voodoo4 AGP 128Mb:
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1232877537

As for my next projects, it will probably be a Voodoo5 PCI with 128Mb first (if someone were to let me modd one such card of his own, as I cannot afford to buy it). Next, I lack no new ideeas. It is free time I do not have. Realy tough on spare time to work on my 3DFX hobby these days... As a taste of what might be, I am sure I could do a Voodoo2 with 20Mb RAM, an AGP-to-PCI addapter and I might try to make other mods like Voodoo3 with 32Mb, Voodoo5 AGP 4x compatible and so on...
Could be a nice thing if you, the 3DFX fans, were to suggest here what should be the next project and I will see what and when I can do to help.
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: BFG3dfx on 30 January 2009, 09:00:20
Wow, you've done a great job. Can the wires that you have glued on the ram chips be free so heat sinks can be placed on the chips? There glued on just to hold wire in place yes?
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Obi-Wan Kenobi on 01 February 2009, 23:32:30
Viel grats mit deine mods Komponent!!! :D [8D][8D]

congrats with your mods man, the 128 meg 4500n is the most impressive as it broke 3dfx Interactive's boundaries ;) too awesome, das ist immer Super Toll Geil Klasse man hrr hrr.
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: kalte on 14 April 2009, 06:54:12
It would be good to see a V3 with 32MB =)
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 31 March 2013, 05:30:19
I have done the PCI Voodoo5 with 128Mb mod.
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1364630437
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 14 April 2013, 17:38:41
Voodoo Rush from 6Mb to 8Mb completed:
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1365950649
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 20 April 2013, 21:34:47
Not sure anyone here cares about it, but I'll keep this thread updated.
Voodoo Graphics mods from 4Mb(2+2) to 6Mb(2+4 and 4+2) and 8Mb(4+4) project is finalized.
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1366485713
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: m14radu on 21 April 2013, 07:35:31
great work !
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Glide on 21 April 2013, 10:22:52
Hi all!

- Komponent:

Compliments.

Did you find some stability issues with your Voodoo5 @ 128MB?

And also, which performance improvement are you measuring with that "prototype"?

Thank you!

Bye bye
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Nightbird on 21 April 2013, 18:40:19
Hi,
Did you try to mod a V3 ?
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 22 April 2013, 16:45:46
@Glide: Voodoo5 128Mb about 15 percent better performance in benchmarks and is able to start games that won't run on the original 64Mb card. With the AGP there is the issue of compatible motherboards. Under Windows 9x the card has no problems, but Under 2k/XP/2003 it will not go to desktop on some motherboards. The PCI variant has no such problem.
On the other hand, the Voodoo4 AGP 128Mb will not run correctly under Win 9x but works just fine with 2k/XP.
@Nightbird: Can't do the Voodoo3 yet as I have no money available to buy the cards, so unless I receive a donation (2xVoodoo3 PCI SGRAM is what I need) it will take some time. I think I found the loophole to perform the mod to 32Mb, but until someone tries it, will never know...
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Nightbird on 22 April 2013, 21:48:14
Why a Voodoo3 PCI ? they are expensive and not easy to find
It's easier to find some Voodoo3 Agp ?
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 23 April 2013, 00:10:55
Empty RAM slots, like on the Voodoo4 AGP.
http://www.vgamuseum.info/images/stories/palcal/3dfx/97_voodoo_3_2000_pci_rev.c_3dfx_top_hq.jpg
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 04 May 2013, 07:39:26
Worth mentioning for those wanting to use AGP 3.3V 3dfx cards on modern systems: ECS's AGP Express and Biostar's XGP tested compatible (they are in fact integrated AGP2PCI-like adapters:
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1185303152/60
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: goriath on 04 May 2013, 13:57:24
QuoteOriginally posted by Komponent

With the AGP there is the issue of compatible motherboards. Under Windows 9x the card has no problems, but Under 2k/XP/2003 it will not go to desktop on some motherboards. The PCI variant has no such problem.

Could be a matter of bios settings?
Could you list which motherboards have problems with the modded Voodoo5 under 2k/XP?
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: jix-reggio on 05 May 2013, 03:35:23
Thank you Komponent for thèse awesome mods !
:)
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 05 May 2013, 18:29:29
QuoteOriginally posted by goriath
Could be a matter of bios settings?
Could you list which motherboards have problems with the modded Voodoo5 under 2k/XP?
I have tried all I could with Epox KT333 (8k3a) and Toshiba i815 (Equium 8000s) and with a AGP V5 5500 128Mb Windows 2k/XP will not load to desktop. However, on Tyan S2466, ECS RS400-A and Biostar K8T890-A9 there were no such problems. I have modded a small number of these cards for some people and maybe they can share the results they got on different motherboards.
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: goriath on 05 May 2013, 19:14:43
QuoteOriginally posted by Komponent

QuoteOriginally posted by goriath
Could be a matter of bios settings?
Could you list which motherboards have problems with the modded Voodoo5 under 2k/XP?
I have tried all I could with Epox KT333 (8k3a) and Toshiba i815 (Equium 8000s) and with a AGP V5 5500 128Mb Windows 2k/XP will not load to desktop. However, on Tyan S2466, ECS RS400-A and Biostar K8T890-A9 there were no such problems. I have modded a small number of these cards for some people and maybe they can share the results they got on different motherboards.

Thank you for this important reply.
So the modded card failed to load 2k/XP desktop with VIA KT333 and intel i815 chipsets, although we can't exclude same chipsets can work on different hardware platforms.
ATi RS480 (Radeon Xpress200) and VIA K8T890 (ECS and Biostar) aren't reliable platforms to me in order to inquire further on this behaviour, because they don't offer true AGP support but a PCIoAGP instead (PCI over AGP); this must be related to the fact that a modded V5 PCI instead works w/o issues.
The AMD-760 MPX chipset of the Tyan motherboard is a good point to start.

We need to handle with all these clues:
PCI Vs AGP
Win98 Vs 2k/xp
Drivers Vs Chipsets
...

Have you any idea on what could be the reason?
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 06 May 2013, 05:23:46
Forgot to mention: with the default driver included with Win XP it does work. I remember narrowing down the quirk to the miniport part of the driver.
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: m14radu on 06 May 2013, 07:50:09
@Komponent: Witch driver did you test ?
SFFT, Amigamerlin, Koolsmokey ?
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 06 May 2013, 08:56:30
I have tried many. Don't worry, soon you will receive your own V5 5500 AGP that I recently modded to 128Mb and you will have the chance to do more tests that I lack the free time for.
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: goriath on 06 May 2013, 15:19:19
QuoteOriginally posted by Komponent

Forgot to mention: with the default driver included with Win XP it does work. I remember narrowing down the quirk to the miniport part of the driver.

Another useful clue, thanks!

I'm starting to think this have to do with SLI and the amount of memory is needed to be addressed with DirectDraw.

Normally, under W9x environment, the card use only the first VSA-100 to display desktop. I remember that with modded/new driver for windows  XP 2D VSA-100 SLI has been added at some point.
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 24 September 2013, 19:30:01
Voodoo5 cards modded with 4ns/4.8ns fast RAM, GPU voltmod and overclocked up to 207Mhz stable.

http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1372485869

Thanks M14Radu for allowing me to mod his hardware!
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: m14radu on 27 September 2013, 08:42:48
Great work Komponent !
Looking forward for the next project/ challange :)
Do you have something in mind ?
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 27 September 2013, 18:10:23
Yes I do :D Not ready to go public and no time to finish the work yet.

Later edit:
http://abload.de/img/011020136csz4.jpg
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Glide on 02 October 2013, 21:45:21
@Komponent: a nice work again, many compliments.

Please keep us updated!

Bye bye

Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 05 October 2013, 16:53:45
Voltmod guide to Voodoo5 5500 PCI (GPU and RAM), Voodoo4 AGP (GPU) and Voodoo4 PCI (GPU and RAM)
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1380984242
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Glide on 06 October 2013, 12:51:02
OK, many thanks for the Web link.

I meant talking also here if possibile :).

Bye bye
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: jix-reggio on 09 October 2013, 12:03:13
Thank you Komponent.
Very good job ... as usual !
:D
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 02 November 2013, 15:59:17
Voodoo5 5500 mod from 3.3v only to 1.5v only AGP4x

http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1383162416
Title: Komponent's 3DFX modding projects What to do next?
Post by: Komponent on 03 December 2013, 20:36:50
AGP2PCIX adapter built:
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1386098580