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Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Bowser on 23 September 2003, 07:55:32
Hello

I have a Monster Fusion PCI. Windows XP installed it's default driver for Banshee that only supports Direct3D (no OpenGL or GLide).
I tried to use some unnofficial Banshee drivers for XP, but then when windows starts, the screen got wreid (more I move the mouse, worse the screen gets, I couldn't even clic START/SHUTDOWN).
The drivers were based on Win2K 3dfx official driver. Anyone seen anything like that? How can I solve this? There is any new driver that would not do that?

Help me please

Thank you
Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Glide on 23 September 2003, 10:30:34
Hi Bowser,

welcome in this board; i hope to help you.

Follow these steps:

1)If current Banshee driver is an unofficial driver you have to unistall it by OS Control Panel (etc...) then reboot the system else jump to point 3.

2)Now your Windows XP is using default driver for Banshee.

3)Download 3dfxzone.it Banshee XP 1.0 from Windows XP - Drivers page of our Banshee area.

3)Unzip the archive (it's a selfextractor file)

4)Click on install banshee.exe for starting installation.

5)Follow the displayed istructions.

5)Reboot.

Now you system would load in memory the 3dfxzone.it Banshee XP 1.0.

Let me know.

Bye bye

Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: mojomotion on 23 September 2003, 13:41:25
QuoteOriginally posted by Bowser

Hello

I have a Monster Fusion PCI. Windows XP installed it's default driver for Banshee that only supports Direct3D (no OpenGL or GLide).
I tried to use some unnofficial Banshee drivers for XP, but then when windows starts, the screen got wreid (more I move the mouse, worse the screen gets, I couldn't even clic START/SHUTDOWN).
The drivers were based on Win2K 3dfx official driver. Anyone seen anything like that? How can I solve this? There is any new driver that would not do that?

Help me please

Thank you

Really strange, however see Glide guide;) and let me know what happen then...

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Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Bowser on 24 September 2003, 01:49:14
Ah, I forgot to say: When using those drivers and Open a program that uses OpenGL, when I close the program, I get a blue screen and then the system reboots

Anyway I'll try what you said, Glide :)
Will I be able to restore WinXP default drivers if anything goes wrong, right?

One more thing: I never updated the BIOS, should I update it? I must update to a new Monster Fusion BIOS or I can use a 3D Blaster or any other else?
Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Nightbird on 24 September 2003, 07:55:53
hum, if you use MS drivers for the Banshee, you will lose OpenGl and Glide

you can also try others third party drivers for XP and the Banshee (BansheeDrivers or Raziel64 drivers)

about your bios, i know only 2 bios for a Fusion and you must know that the Fusion was the fastest among the Banshee's because of the Sgram (on the version Agp) and the core/memory speed (115 mhz/125 mhz) (100/110 for most Banshee's , sometimes 110/115)
do you know the version of your bios ?


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Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Bowser on 24 September 2003, 09:02:39
I'm using the winXP drivers now. (I'm a bit afraid to use 3rd party drivers and even win2K 3dfx official drivers, cause they cause the same problem I said above hehe)
Now the BIOS version is 1.20B4002 (I updated today, but I have a backup)

Also, my Monster Fusion is PCI and SDRAM :P
Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: mojomotion on 24 September 2003, 11:03:36
Well if u use original XP drivers you CANNOT play Opengl or Glide games;)
3dfxzone.it banshee xp or raziel64 banshee xp can run opengl and glide games really stable;):)

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Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Nightbird on 24 September 2003, 19:41:48
for a banshee under XP, you have the choice and mojomotion is right : the driver is stable
here :
https://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/3dfx/banshee/winxp.htm

and indeed about the Diamond Banshee : the version pci has sdram and not sgram (i have the 2 versions :))

hum, your bios 1.20B4002 is the last for the version pci

ps : i tried my nice Guillemot Phoenix with a third party driver under Win98SE (BansheeDriver Win9x Driver (V1.04.00k)) and frankly that rocks :D
i don't know your system but perhaps you can anticipate a fan for the card


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Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Bowser on 24 September 2003, 20:51:50
I tried 3dfxzone.it driver, but after sometime like 10 minutes, the screen got wreid (I was only chatting on IRC and ICQ.), like happened before with 3dfx official win2k drivers and other 3rd party drivers. I couldnt even take a screenshot because the screen got so ugly that I couldnt tell where the cursor was, I got to restart and then change to WinXP default driver again :(
Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Nightbird on 24 September 2003, 21:49:01
You don't have problems with the WinXP default driver ?

Are you sure that your card is not too "hot" to operate ?
Originally (in old Motherboards), these cards didn't really need active cooling but on modern systems, some things can be different


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Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Bowser on 24 September 2003, 22:05:21
I never had problems with WinXP default driver... its installed right now, and everything is ok (except for no OpenGL or GLide)

my card has a cooler and its working.

in Win9x I have no problem with drivers, I always used 3dfx last official driver, and no problem, OpenGL/GLide and D3D worked great, and no wreid screen after a short time of use :P
Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Nightbird on 24 September 2003, 22:32:17
except the 3dfxzone.it driver, what third driver party did you try ?

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Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Bowser on 25 September 2003, 00:07:03
I tried all banshee drivers that are available for download at www.voodoofiles.com and Raziel64 driver, and also tried 3dfx Official driver for win2K.
All of them shows the same problem: the screen get wreid and confused after a short time of uptime (like 10 minute).

PS: All the drivers are based on Win2K official driver?
Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Nightbird on 25 September 2003, 08:33:12
yes

did you try to change the slot pci ?

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Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Bowser on 25 September 2003, 18:03:19
I tried so, but no difference. Also tried other resolutions and color sets, but the problem is always the same.
The curious thing is that under win9x, I never had problems... only under winXP.
My guess is that the problem is the win2K drivers... why the XP drivers arent based on WinXP default drivers that are stable?
Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Nightbird on 28 September 2003, 14:52:19
i wonder if the driver is correctly installed


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Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Bowser on 28 September 2003, 22:35:34
I'm sure they are, I tried to reinstall many times and many different drivers, from windows control panel and using the install software, but the only stable is the WinXP default driver (the one that do not have GLide/OpenGL).

But my doubt is: why do not develop banshee XP drivers based on winXP drivers instead of modifying the Win2K drivers? Is that possible? I would do it myself but I have no idea how to do that :(
Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Glide on 29 September 2003, 12:03:31
Many, many people use anofficial drivers with good results so you could control your hw and sw configuration for issue (hardware IRQ sharing, registry corruption due to multiple driver installs etc...)

Let us know.

Bye bye

Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Bowser on 02 October 2003, 18:55:44
QuoteOriginally posted by Glide

Many, many people use anofficial drivers with good results so you could control your hw and sw configuration for issue (hardware IRQ sharing, registry corruption due to multiple driver installs etc...)

Let us know.

Bye bye


I dont see any IRQ in the video card propreties window, how can I change it then? :(
Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: heilimo on 26 November 2003, 14:08:40
Hello

I have same kind of problem with my Monster Fusion AGP. Screen gets badly messed up, icons get broken, taskbar stays black and mouse moves very oddly. Seems that display update depends on input from mouse or keyboard and nothing happens if I don't do anything with those. Pointer is badly behind mouse movements and only solution is to use 'Windows' button (for once it is useful..) and shutdown or restart system.

Previous happens IF I have color depth setting to 16bits AND I have "Enable write combining" checked in display settings. Apparently resolution does not matter, same happens using any resolution between 800x600 and 1280x1024.
If I have color depth 24bits or 32bits everything seems to work ok with "Enable write combining" checked.

I've done clean install (to my best knowledge) using 3dfxzone.it drivers and also tried raziel (not clean if I recall right).

Most of the time I've had default timings (100/100?), recently I used v.control to change timings to 115/125 and everything runs ok. And faster.


Hardware: Monster Fusion AGP 16Mb, Abit BX6 with last bios, PIII 600E (100MHz x 6, AGP timing 2/3), 256Mb mem, XP Pro SP1, DirectX 9.0b.

Problems started when I upgraded Celeron 300A (450Mhz (100MHz x 4,5, AGP 2/3)) to PIII.

I tried running PIII 400MHz (66 x 6, AGP timing 2/3) but that didn't solve the problem. So it should not be directly connected to processor speed as Celeron 450Mhz is quite same as that. I think that problem is some thing that PIII does differently that Celeron.

I Installed XP with Celeron, could that be the cause of problems? If screen update is somehow connected to mouse movements does that tell about some issue with chipset drivers being wrong becouse of changed processor type?

Before XP I used 98SE (with Celeron) for many years and no problems with it.


"Second" ;) question is about Direct3D. Wizmark test (included in 3dfxzone.it driverset) won't run. Dxdiag also tells me that I don't have Direct3D available. DirectX was installed when I had "default" xp-drivers in use. Could that be cause? Glide2x and 3x test go ok. WickedGL driver runs when I select OpenGL in game.


     Jukka
Title: Need help with Monster Fusion on XP
Post by: Nightbird on 05 December 2003, 00:23:35
i have some difficulties to understand you ;)
in short what's happened ?